Re: LDP Agenda for December 17, 2012, with a list of issues to be closed

Hi all,

On Dec 14, 2012, at 18:51, Ashok Malhotra <ashok.malhotra@oracle.com> wrote:

> To make progress, I think we need to agree on a few fundamental features of the model.

+1. Thanks for this, Ashok. 


> Let me list what I see in an effort to help the discussion on Monday.
> 
> Can a LDPR belong to more than one container?  If yes, then we need to specify how a LDPR that already exists is added to a container.

Yes for me.  The relationship is just a link in the container metadata, so it is no big deal, I think. 
> 
> When a container is deleted do are all its members deleted also?  I think we have agreement that all members may be deleted or they may not be deleted.  We need a mechanism to specify which: perhaps an attribute on the container called DeleteMembers yes/no

Hmm. I agree that use cases will vary so both should be supported or at least allowed. Maybe this is over-specifying?

> Can a client create containers?  I believe the WG sentiment is running to YES

Yes from me. 

> Can containers be members of other containers?  I believe the WG sentiment is running to YES

Yes from me. 

Regards,
Dave

> What did I miss?
> All the best, Ashok
> 
> On 12/14/2012 2:12 PM, Arnaud Le Hors wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Askok, 
>> I'd be more than happy to discuss the model but I'm really not sure we can have a very constructive conversation without a concrete proposal to look at. 
>> 
>> For now, Erik created a wiki page [1] and invited people to try and describe what model they think we should have. I'm sorry to see that very little has been added to it (I know you did). Without this, again, I'm afraid we can spend a lot of time talking without getting anywhere. 
>> 
>> I also think this is a very important issue (as you may remember I was one of the first people to raise it in the first place) but looking at our list of open issues it's clear to me that some are quite independent of the model and we could at least make some progress in addressing those. 
>> 
>> Let's discuss this on Monday's call and see if we can come up with a plan on how to move forward. 
>> Regards. 
>> 
>> [1] http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/wiki/ISSUE-37 
>> --
>> Arnaud  Le Hors - Software Standards Architect - IBM Software Group
>> 
>> 
>> Ashok Malhotra <ashok.malhotra@oracle.com> wrote           on 12/14/2012 01:41:49 PM:
>> 
>> > From: Ashok Malhotra <ashok.malhotra@oracle.com> 
>> > To: public-ldp-wg@w3.org, 
>> > Date: 12/14/2012 01:43 PM 
>> > Subject: Re: LDP Agenda for December 17, 2012,           with a list of issues
>> > to be  closed 
>> > 
>> > Arnaud:
>> > On Monday's call can we have a discussion of the model?
>> > I think we need to settle this basic issue before we go further.
>> > If you like, I can send you a list of questions or you can find them in the
>> > mail thread. 
>> > All the best, Ashok 
>> > 
>> > On 12/14/2012 1:22 PM, Arnaud Le Hors wrote: 
>> > Hi folks, 
>> > The agenda for Monday is available. Per last week's discussion, it 
>> > lists 5 specific issues to be discussed, with a proposal on how to 
>> > close them. Check them out! 
>> > http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2012.12.17
>> > --
>> > Arnaud  Le Hors - Software Standards Architect - IBM Software Group