- From: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
- Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2012 08:18:52 -0400
- To: public-ldp-wg@w3.org
- Message-ID: <502107AC.3060903@openlinksw.com>
On 8/7/12 4:05 AM, Wilde, Erik wrote: > hello kingsley. > >> From my vantage point, the data model is the good old >> entity-attribute-value model. Every piece of data takes the form of >> a 3-tuple (triple). Each part of the the triple is denoted by a URI >> with the value part being optional since it can hold literals, typed >> literals, or URIs. > this, kingsley, is where you are always losing me. on the one hand you say > we shouldn't be concerned about the metamodel in general and not focus on > RDF specifically (which i think are great points), on the other hand you > are proposing a metamodel that is pretty much isomorphic to RDF and, > afaict, just a different name for RDF. how do you get from saying "Linked > Data should not be tightly bound to RDF" to the conclusion that the > metamodel should be a slight generalization of RDF, and not be just up to > the choice of the service provider? > > cheers, > > dret. > > > > Put differently, I am saying that the entity-attribute-value model (triples) is a powerful foundation for dealing with data representation. The letters R-D-F are a distraction. The negatives with R-D-F have everything to do with the fatal mistake of obscuring the triple via RDF/XML at the onset of the Semantic Web Project, and then compounding that error by attempting to inextricably bind RDF (which most saw as RDF/XML) to Linked Data. The label doesn't matter, its the semantics that matter. a Data Object is a digital representation of an Observation Subject. Its representation is an entity-attribute-value graph. Make the representation of the Data Object intensional and you get some other subtleties that aren't official re. EAV: 1. relationship semantics 2. de-referencable names. The semantics of relationships expressed via EAV/SPO triples are they key to powerful data access, representation, and integration. Again, the early RDF narratives had RDF/XML and relationship semantics dumped on an audience that couldn't find the basic triple pattern and in doing so obscured the path to the magic sauce. A triple pattern (which isn't an RDF invention) is a powerful vehicle for data representation. Nothing about that is platform specific. The schema is fundamentally conceptual and grounded in first-order logic. Links: 1. http://www.slideshare.net/kidehen/iss-1 -- nice John Sowa presentation re. these matters (note how an expert like him took RDF to mean RDF/XML too) 2. http://queue.acm.org/detail.cfm?id=1961297 -- about the CoRelational approach which ultimately takes a different route to the same destination . -- Regards, Kingsley Idehen Founder & CEO OpenLink Software Company Web: http://www.openlinksw.com Personal Weblog: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen Twitter/Identi.ca handle: @kidehen Google+ Profile: https://plus.google.com/112399767740508618350/about LinkedIn Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/kidehen
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