- From: Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org>
- Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2015 16:18:44 +0100
- To: Linked Data for Language Technology Community Group <public-ld4lt@w3.org>
See http://www.w3.org/2015/01/22-ld4lt-minutes.html and below as text. [1]W3C [1] http://www.w3.org/ - DRAFT - LD4LT CG 22 Jan 2015 [2]Agenda [2] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ld4lt/2015Jan/0013.html See also: [3]IRC log [3] http://www.w3.org/2015/01/22-ld4lt-irc Attendees Present kevin, andrea, gabriela, john, jorge, felix, marta, martin, victor, sebastian, MTCarrasco, Riccardo_&_Fahad, Penny Regrets Chair jorge Scribe victor Contents * [4]Topics 1. [5]review of pending actions to do 2. [6]Summary of the state of the Metashare OWL model 3. [7]Brief introduction to LingHub 4. [8]Alignment between both 5. [9]Namespace of the model 6. [10]namespaces 7. [11]Deadlines for the model definition * [12]Summary of Action Items __________________________________________________________ who finger <fsasaki> scribe: victor <fsasaki> [13]http://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt/track/actions/open [13] http://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt/track/actions/open <jgracia> [14]http://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt/track/actions/open [14] http://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt/track/actions/open <fsasaki> action-11? <trackbot> action-11 -- David Lewis to Gather info on how to provide more detailed mapping from meta-share to dcat -- due 2014-07-24 -- OPEN <trackbot> [15]http://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt/track/actions/11 [15] http://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt/track/actions/11 <Sebastian> Rough agenda: <Sebastian> 1. Review of open actions [1] 2. Summary of the state of the Metashare OWL model (see [2]) 3. Brief introduction to LingHub [3] by John 4. Alignment between both (see [4]) 5. Namespace of the model (see [5]) 6. Next deadlines for the model [1] [16]http://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt/track/actions/open [2] [17]https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15SE4_qAqYFostmD52uK xpkCPZh1f5TrPeoXKNTlDYpQ/edit#gid=525162452 [3] [18]http://linghub.lider-project.eu [4] [19]http://[CUT] [1] http://www.w3.org/ [2] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ld4lt/2015Jan/0013.html [3] http://www.w3.org/2015/01/22-ld4lt-irc [1] http://www.w3.org/ [16] http://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt/track/actions/open [2] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ld4lt/2015Jan/0013.html [17] https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15SE4_qAqYFostmD52uKxpkCPZh1f5TrPeoXKNTlDYpQ/edit#gid=525162452 [3] http://www.w3.org/2015/01/22-ld4lt-irc [18] http://linghub.lider-project.eu/ [19] http://[CUT]/ review of pending actions to do <fsasaki> close action-11 <trackbot> Closed action-11. <fsasaki> action-12? <trackbot> action-12 -- Penny Labropoulou to Capture list of parameters that may be relevant for a skos classification -- due 2014-08-07 -- OPEN <trackbot> [20]http://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt/track/actions/12 [20] http://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt/track/actions/12 <fsasaki> [21]https://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt/wiki/Using_SKOS_for_clas sification_information [21] https://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt/wiki/Using_SKOS_for_classification_information <fsasaki> close action-12 <trackbot> Closed action-12. pennyl: Regarding action 12, see this reference: [22]https://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt/wiki/Using_SKOS_for_clas sification_information [22] https://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt/wiki/Using_SKOS_for_classification_information <fsasaki> action-13? <trackbot> action-13 -- Penny Labropoulou to Update google doc with licenses -- due 2015-01-15 -- OPEN <trackbot> [23]http://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt/track/actions/13 [23] http://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt/track/actions/13 <fsasaki> close action-13 <trackbot> Closed action-13. close action12 <fsasaki> action-14? <trackbot> action-14 -- Jorge Gracia to Send email around about preferences and possibilities for namespace of the model -- due 2015-01-15 -- OPEN <trackbot> [24]http://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt/track/actions/14 [24] http://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt/track/actions/14 <fsasaki> close action-14 <trackbot> Closed action-14. <fsasaki> action-15? <trackbot> action-15 -- Víctor Rodríguez-Doncel to Contact john for getting statistics on the use of licenses to select more relevant eamples -- due 2015-01-15 -- OPEN <trackbot> [25]http://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt/track/actions/15 [25] http://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt/track/actions/15 <fsasaki> close action-15 <trackbot> Closed action-15. <fsasaki> action-16? <trackbot> action-16 -- Víctor Rodríguez-Doncel to Send to the list a call for further examples -- due 2015-01-15 -- OPEN <trackbot> [26]http://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt/track/actions/16 [26] http://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt/track/actions/16 <fsasaki> victor: have informed odrl people on this, got some feedback <fsasaki> .. keep action open (thanks Felix!) <jgracia> [27]https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15SE4_qAqYFostmD52uK xpkCPZh1f5TrPeoXKNTlDYpQ/edit#gid=525162452 [27] https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15SE4_qAqYFostmD52uKxpkCPZh1f5TrPeoXKNTlDYpQ/edit#gid=525162452 Summary of the state of the Metashare OWL model the URL for the wikis can be found here: [28]https://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt/wiki/Metashare_vocabular y_for_licenses [28] https://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt/wiki/Metashare_vocabulary_for_licenses While some examples can be seen here: [29]https://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt/wiki/Examples [29] https://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt/wiki/Examples john wonders about the need and origin of the spreadsheet at googledocs the spreadsheet was originated from Marta's work, as a convenient document to discuss jgracia: some problems had to be solved and improved john: should the document be closed? sebastian: metashare is at a certain stable state, but the people behind it feel the schema has to be innovated pennyl: agrees ... the problems discussed at ld4lt lists are actual problems of the metashare community sebastian: will there be a new version of metashare? pennyl: yes, partly based on ld4lt input john: based on linghub info, a better structured document can be done rather than the spreadsheet ... I already referred some of this on an email sent Monday <Sebastian> [30]http://www.essepuntato.it/lode [30] http://www.essepuntato.it/lode victor: I believe the spreadsheet is only an intermediate document for discussion jgracia: but it was agreed to leave the document open also for others to read it pennyl: at least some of the properties are ill-defined, or at least they do not match Metashare's jgracia: maybe there are other sources, specially for terms not handled by Metashare john will offer statsitics on the use of the different elements <jgracia> ACTION: john to produce a new google doc and owl based on the real use of the MS model in the data [recorded in [31]http://www.w3.org/2015/01/22-ld4lt-minutes.html#action01] <trackbot> 'john' is an ambiguous username. Please try a different identifier, such as family name or username (e.g., johnjudge, jmccrae). <jgracia> ACTION: jmccrae to produce a new google doc and owl based on the real use of the MS model in the data [recorded in [32]http://www.w3.org/2015/01/22-ld4lt-minutes.html#action02] <trackbot> Created ACTION-17 - Produce a new google doc and owl based on the real use of the ms model in the data [on John McCrae - due 2015-01-29]. Brief introduction to LingHub john: Linghub is an attempt to bring together differently sourced language resources into a single aligned model <jgracia> [33]http://linghub.lider-project.eu [33] http://linghub.lider-project.eu/ <jgracia> under construction yet Alignment between both <jgracia> different catalogs (CLARIN, MS, ..) still not well aligned jgracia: please send feedback on linghub. pennyl: will the linghub-metashare alignment change based on our current work? <riccardo> lremap is on the way to be totally LOD-ed pennyl: and some misalignment has been detected, for example regarding the version of CC-ZERO licenses <riccardo> we can't interact since our mic just went break <riccardo> hi its riccardo from pisa here! hello Riccardo <jgracia> hi riccardo <riccardo> hi all is there anything I should mention aloud in the voice discussion? <riccardo> I did not hear what john said about lremap.. <riccardo> could u repeat or write down? jgracia: the new vocabulary we create should be reflected on linghub <jmccrae> riccardo I said you never answered me about what exact license you used jmccrae: but we should better stick to W3C standards <riccardo> it's true, that's a pity from me. But 4 sure what is lodded now is totally free <jmccrae> are IRC chats legally binding... I wonder ;) jgracia: Riccardo informs that LREMap is fully loaded <riccardo> yes, it is 2014 is lodded and free. :) Namespace of the model <fsasaki> jmccrae, there is a patent policy, but so far no legal binding IRC policy - room for develpment :) <jmccrae> penny, all, please report issues with LingHub here: [34]https://github.com/liderproject/linghub/issues [34] https://github.com/liderproject/linghub/issues <jgracia> [35]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ld4lt/2015Jan/00 11.html [35] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ld4lt/2015Jan/0011.html namespaces jgracia: W3C is not the best domain for its possibly lenghty bureachratic procedures <jgracia> maybe purl the best option fsasaki: by W3C it wouldnt be that difficult, if needed. sebastian: which would be the relationship with metashare? fsasaki: agree, namespace hosting must be further discussed pennyl: people recognize the metashare model, so regardles its hosting, the metasheare "seal" is widely recognized and should be kept somewhere <jgracia> sebastian: w3c is more neutral sebastian: but w3c is (and has to be) neutral <fsasaki> [36]http://www.w3.org/2005/07/13-nsuri [36] http://www.w3.org/2005/07/13-nsuri <fsasaki> [37]http://www.w3.org/ns/ssss [37] http://www.w3.org/ns/ssss <fsasaki> "ssss" <scribe> ACTION: fsasaki to setup a namespace document [recorded in [38]http://www.w3.org/2015/01/22-ld4lt-minutes.html#action03] <trackbot> Created ACTION-18 - Setup a namespace document [on Felix Sasaki - due 2015-01-29]. <fsasaki> "ssss is a short string not causing confusion, alarm, or embarrassment. For instance, the short string should not cause confusion when used in both [39]http://www.w3.org/TR/ssss and [40]http://www.w3.org/ns/ssss URIs." [39] http://www.w3.org/TR/ssss [40] http://www.w3.org/ns/ssss <fsasaki> (above are the requirements) jgracia: is there any objection? fsasaki: we dont have to decide today close action-15 <trackbot> Closed action-15. jgracia: we have also to choose a name instead of the ssss ... we leave this for the next call Deadlines for the model definition jgracia: 2 weeks for having the new version based on linhub by John, 4 weeks from now to incorporate the modifications and improvements into John's version, 6 weeks from now for having collected feedback. <fsasaki> +1 for the schedule (nobody opposes) <fsasaki> [41]https://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt/wiki/Main_Page#LD4LT_cal ls [41] https://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt/wiki/Main_Page#LD4LT_calls jgracia: the next telco is not about the Metashare topic, but a 10 mins slot to assess progress is possible <fsasaki> [next call would be 19 February, main topic is LIDER roadmap] sebastian: agree, but please not too long jgracia: any other business? <MTCarrasco> bye thanks all, bye Summary of Action Items [NEW] ACTION: fsasaki to setup a namespace document [recorded in [42]http://www.w3.org/2015/01/22-ld4lt-minutes.html#action03] [NEW] ACTION: jmccrae to produce a new google doc and owl based on the real use of the MS model in the data [recorded in [43]http://www.w3.org/2015/01/22-ld4lt-minutes.html#action02] [NEW] ACTION: john to produce a new google doc and owl based on the real use of the MS model in the data [recorded in [44]http://www.w3.org/2015/01/22-ld4lt-minutes.html#action01] [End of minutes] __________________________________________________________ Minutes formatted by David Booth's [45]scribe.perl version 1.140 ([46]CVS log) $Date: 2015-01-22 15:17:27 $ __________________________________________________________ [45] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm [46] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2002/scribe/ Scribe.perl diagnostic output [Delete this section before finalizing the minutes.] This is scribe.perl Revision: 1.140 of Date: 2014-11-06 18:16:30 Check for newer version at [47]http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/ scribe/ [47] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/ Guessing input format: RRSAgent_Text_Format (score 1.00) Succeeded: s/topic: action items// Found Scribe: victor Inferring ScribeNick: victor Present: kevin andrea gabriela john jorge felix marta martin victor seba stian MTCarrasco Riccardo_&_Fahad Penny Agenda: [48]https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ld4lt/2015Jan/00 13.html Got date from IRC log name: 22 Jan 2015 Guessing minutes URL: [49]http://www.w3.org/2015/01/22-ld4lt-minutes.htm l People with action items: fsasaki jmccrae john [48] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ld4lt/2015Jan/0013.html [49] http://www.w3.org/2015/01/22-ld4lt-minutes.html WARNING: Input appears to use implicit continuation lines. 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