Re: How public-appsdesignlab and informationarchitecture Community Groups of the W3C Meet: Reading J.N. Robbins'"Learning Web Design..." (O'Reilly, 2018

Dear public-appsdesignlab &
public-informationarchitecture,



 "Communication Networks", "Information Networks", "Network
Deconstruction", "Networks Recycling", the "Internet Web Ecology" and the
"(World Wide) Web" --those I mentioned in the previous messages-- reminds
me also on

- "The Web of Life"  by Fritjof Capra (1996)
https://www.pdfdrive.com/the-web-of-life-a-new-scientific-un
derstanding-of-living-systems-e157334927.html


Reagard,
Guntur Wiseno Putra




Pada Senin, 25 April 2022, Guntur Wiseno Putra <gsenopu@gmail.com> menulis:

> Dear public-appsdesignlab &
> public-informationarchitecture,
>
>
>
> Yet we may encounter critical situations of everyday lifes asking for
> solutions, problems asking for conceptual solutions... (See Deleuze and
> Guattari in "What is Philosophy? ch 1. "Concepts") I mentioned above): are
> technologies not about "concepts with their implementations"? -- according
> to Oxford English Dictionary (Green-Yellow Edition) "technology" means
> 2. systematic application of knowledge to practical task in industry...?
>
>
> As I am reading on it, the Deleuzo-Guattarian notion on "concept" is
> deconstructive and thus has a similaritiy with Jacques Derrida's, Michel
> Foucault's and what is known as the Bootstraap hypothesis/philosophy in
> physics attempted by Geoffrey Chan:
>
> This one may render ones to thinking on deconstructive concepts. Is the
> Deleuzo-Guattarian notion on "concept" not about a notion on deconstructive
> concepts (which are of cocepts that have histories and "becomings"; of ones
> having heterogen yet inseparable components; of ones as points of
> connections, condensation and associations of their components, as
> heterogenesis and ordinals)...
>
>
>
> "What is called "deconstruction"--and I will be very sketchy here, because
> time does
> not permit detailed analyses--has never, never opposed institutions as
> such,
> philosophy as such, discipline as such. Nevertheless, as you rightly said,
> it is another
> thing for me to be doing what I am doing here. Because, however affirmative
> deconstruction is, it is affirmative in a way that is not simply positive,
> not simply
> conservative, not simply a way of repeating the given institution. I think
> that the life of an institution implies that we are able to criticize, to
> transform, to
> open the institution to its own future. The paradox in the instituting
> moment of an
> institution is that, at the same time that it starts something new, it
> also continues
> something, is true to the memory of the past, to a heritage, to something
> we receive
> from the past, from our predecessors, from the culture. If an institution
> is to be an
> institution, it must to some extent break with the past, keep the memory
> of the past,
> while inaugurating something absolutely new [cf. PdS139/ Points130-131].
> So, I am
> convinced that today, although ((a ))program to some extent looks like
> other, similar
> programs, it does something absolutely new. The indication of this is
> found not
> simply in the structural organization of the program, but in the work, in
> the content of
> the work, of those who will run this program, the new themes. (()) they
> are not simply reproducing, that they are trying to open something new and
> something
> original, something that hasn't been done in that way in other, similar
> ((places)) or
> programs. So the paradox is that the instituting moment in an institution
> is violent in a
> way, violent because it has no guarantee. Although it follows the premises
> of the past,
> it starts something absolutely new, and this newness, this novelty, is a
> risk, is
> something that has to be risky, and it is violent because it is guaranteed
> by no
> previous rules. So, at the same time, you have to follow the rule and to
> invent a new
> rule, a new norm, a new criterion, a new law [cf. FL 50-52/ DPJ23]. That's
> why the
> moment of institution is so dangerous at the same time. One should not
> have an
> absolute guarantee, an absolute norm; we have to invent the rules. I am
> sure that the
> responsibility that is taken ((ones working on a program)) implies that
> they
> give themselves the new rule. There is no responsibility, no decision,
> without this
> inauguration, this absolute break. That is what deconstruction is made of:
> not the
> mixture but the tension between memory, fidelity, the preservation of
> something that
> has been given to us, and, at the same time, heterogeneity, something
> absolutely new,
> and a break. The condition of this performative success, which is never
> guaranteed, is
> the alliance of these to newness".
>
> (Caputo, J.D (ed.), "Deconstruction in a Nutshell: a Conversation with
> Jacques Derrida"
> https://www.pdfdrive.com/deconstruction-in-a-nutshell-a-conv
> ersation-with-jacques-derrida-e161901356.html
> The sign ((...)) means that I made such an editing.)
>
>
> Yet, Foucault's archaelogy of human sciences worked on such a notion on
> cultutalbdeconstruction when dealingveith "order", "reflections on order"
> and "pure experiences of order". He also finded out that 17th-18th century
> episteme, which was of "representation", was featured by such a thought
> which is of deconstruction: "An arbitrary system of signs must permit
> analysis of things  into their simplest elements; it must be capable of
> decomposing them into their very origins; but it must also demonstrate how
> combinations of those elements are possible, and permit the ideal genesis
> of the complexity of things".(My machine-based notes on)  Foucault, M., The
> Order of Things: an Archaeology of Human Sciences" Chapter 3.
> "Representing" p. 68-9 (It is also availabe in PDF Drive library
> https://www.pdfdrive.com/the-order-of-things-routledge-class
> ics-e184283457.html)
>
> Fritjof Capra, "The Tao of Physics"
> https://www.pdfdrive.com/the-tao-of-physics-an-exploration-o
> f-the-parallels-between-modern-physics-and-eastern-mysticism
> -e195269411.html
> or
> https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https:/
> /rauterberg.employee.id.tue.nl/lecturenotes/DDM110%2520CAS/C
> apra-1975%2520The%2520Tao%2520of%2520Physics.pdf&ved=2ahUKEw
> iHlpn5ycfzAhVLILcAHdNXBn8QFnoECAoQAQ&usg=AOvVaw0L14GlSrtyULe
> RrbOMmYPGRegard,
> and Capra " The Unification of Physics"
> http://www.fritjofcapra.net/the-unification-of-physics/
>
>
>  "Communication Networks", "Information Networks", "Network
> Deconstruction", "Networks Recycling"...?
> "Recycling" is the term closely related with ecology, yet may also in such
> an anticipation for "The Internet Web ecology"*1. "Recycling" means
> "reprocessing of recovered materials at the end of product life, returning
> them into the supply chain ("Handbook of Recycling..." p.9).
> https://www.pdfdrive.com/handbook-of-recycling-state-of-the-
> art-for-practitioners-analysts-and-scientists-e165930045.html
>
>
>
> NOTE:
>
> *1
>
> "Before your personal computer is turned on, it is a dead collection of
> sheet metal, plastic,
> metallic tracings, and tiny flakes of silicon. When you push the On
> switch, one little burst of elec-
> tricity-only about 3-5 volts-starts a string of events that magically
> brings to life what otherwise
> would remain an oversized paperweight".
>
> "How Computers Work" (By R. White & T. Down, Que, 8th Edition). Part 7
> "How the Internet Works":
>
> https://www.pdfdrive.com/how-computers-work-8th-edition-e33422809.html
>
>
>
> "The Internet works because of interoperability between different
> computers, despite different hardware, operating systems, local language
> context, and software supplier. Users of the web sign on to the use of
> these languages when they use the Internet". (T. Berners-Lee, "Stack of
> Specifications")
>
> https://w3.org/DesignIssues/Stack.html
>
>
>
>
>
> Regard,
> Guntur Wiseno Putra
>
> Pada Selasa, 29 Maret 2022, Guntur Wiseno Putra <gsenopu@gmail.com>
> menulis:
>
>> Dear Noreen,
>> public-appsdesignlab &
>> public-informationarchitecture
>>
>>
>> Such convergences of events:
>>
>> *) The episteme and epistemological rupture, *) the field of discursive
>> events, *) discursive formations and positivities, *) epistemological
>> extrapolation and genetic extrapolation
>>
>> "On the Archaeology of the Sciences: Response to the Epistenology Circle
>> in "Michel Foucault: Essential Works of Foucault 1954-1984 Vol. 2
>> Aesthetics, Method, and Epistemology"" ed. J. Faubion (Penguin Books, 2000)
>> p.297-333 (I have not found it yet in the PDF Library.)
>>
>> But simply, again using Foucault'words, the reading on such convergences
>> of events is about "...addressing
>> itself to the general space of knowledge, to its configurations, and to
>> the mode of being of the things that appear in it, defines systems of
>> simultaneity, as well as the series of mutations necessary and sufficient
>> to circumscribe the threshold of a new positivity". (See "The Order of
>> Things" p.xxv
>> https://www.pdfdrive.com/the-order-of-things-routledge-class
>> ics-e184283457.html)
>>
>> Therefore there may be ones in our day  like "Les Meninas" and "Don
>> Quixote" for the classical period of "representation" signing the 17th
>> century Europe (See "The Order of Things" pp. 3-19 and pp. 51-55) . Yet we
>> may encounter critical situations of everyday lifes asking for solutions,
>> problems asking for conceptual solutions... (See Deleuze and Guattari in
>> "What is Philosophy? ch 1. "Concepts") I mentioned above): are technologies
>> not about concept with their implemetations?
>>
>>
>>
>> Somewhere the Internet Web, which is only part of a global human society,
>> there are supposedly an event, or set of collected events, working for such
>> inventions/discoveries/innovations --of the Internet Web and a global
>> human society...
>>
>>
>> Regard,
>> Guntur Wiseno Putra
>>
>> Pada Senin, 28 Maret 2022, Noreen Whysel <nwhysel@gmail.com> menulis:
>>
>>> Thank you, Gunter. This is a fascinating list of convergences between
>>> IA, Design, Architecture and philosophy.
>>>
>>> Noreen
>>>
>>> On Mar 27, 2022, at 10:21 PM, Guntur Wiseno Putra <gsenopu@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear publicappsdesignlab &
>>> public-informationarchitecture
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Architecture": art and science of building (Oxford English Dictionary
>>> (Green-Yellow Edition)): The Website is architectural: designing the Web
>>> which is architectural:
>>>
>>> These are how public-appsdesignlab and informationarchitecture Community
>>> Groups of the W3C meet according to J.N. Robbins'"Learning Web Design..."
>>> (O'Reilly, 2018)
>>>
>>> "IT TAKES A VILLAGE
>>> (WEBSITE CREATION ROLES)
>>> When I look at a site, I see the multitude of decisions and areas of
>>> expertise
>>> that went into building it...".
>>> p.4
>>>
>>> More about the Web there is a linkage between Information Architecture
>>> and Design:
>>>
>>> "...  the various disciplines that contribute
>>> to the creation of a site, including roles related to content, design,
>>> and code....
>>>
>>> *) Content Wrangling
>>> Anyone who uses the title “web designer” needs to be aware that
>>> everything
>>> we do supports the process of getting the content, message, or
>>> functionality
>>> to our users.
>>>
>>> ... two content-related specialists in modern web development: the
>>> Information Architect (IA) and the Content Strategist.
>>>
>>> 1) Information architecture
>>> An Information Architect (also called an Information Designer) organizes
>>> the content logically and for ease of findability. They may be
>>> responsible
>>> for search functionality, site diagrams, and how the content and data are
>>> organized on the server. Information architecture is inevitably entwined
>>> with
>>> UX and UI design (defined shortly) as well as content management. If you
>>> like organizing or are gaga for taxonomies, information architecture may
>>> be
>>> the job for you. The definitive text for this field as it relates to the
>>> web is
>>> Information Architecture: For the Web and Beyond, by Louis Rosenfeld and
>>> Peter Morville (O’Reilly).
>>>
>>> 2) Content strategy
>>> A Content Strategist makes sure that every bit of text on a site, from
>>> long explanatory
>>> text down to the labels on buttons, supports the brand identity and mar-
>>> keting goals of the organization. Content strategy may also extend to
>>> data
>>> modeling and content management on a large and ongoing scale, such as
>>> planning for content reuse and update schedules. Their responsibilities
>>> may
>>> also include how the organization’s voice is represented on social
>>> media. A
>>> good place to learn more is the book Content Strategy for the Web, 2nd
>>> Edition,
>>> by Kristina Halvorson and Melissa Rich (New Riders).
>>> ...
>>>
>>> **) All Manner of Design
>>> Ah, design! It sounds fairly straightforward, but even this simple
>>> requirement
>>> has been divided into a number of specializations when it comes to
>>> creating
>>> sites.
>>>
>>> - User Experience, Interaction, and User Interface design
>>> ... (User research and testing reports, Wireframe diagrams, Site
>>> diagram, Storyboards and user flow charts) ...
>>> - Visual (graphic) design
>>>
>>>
>>> ***) Code Slinging
>>> - Frontend development (Authoring/markup (HTML), Styling (CSS),
>>> JavaScript and DOM scripting)
>>> - Backend development
>>>
>>> ****) Other Roles
>>> - Product manager
>>> - Project manager
>>> - SEO (Search Engine Optimization) specialist
>>> - Multimedia producers
>>>
>>> ..."
>>>
>>> p.4-13 (J.N.Robbins, "Learning Web Design"...)
>>>
>>> It reminds me on T. Berners-Lee's "Design Issues: Architectural and
>>> Philosophical Points"
>>>
>>> "Architectural and philosophical points
>>> These statements of architectural principle explain the thinking behind
>>> the specifications. These are personal notes by Tim Berners-Lee: they are
>>> not endorsed by W3C. They are aimed at the technical community, to explain
>>> reasons, provide a framework to provide consistency for for future
>>> developments, and avoid repetition of discussions once resolved".
>>>
>>> https://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/Preface.html
>>>
>>> https://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/
>>>
>>> and on "Caught in a Web (Awake)" · Dream Theater (1994)
>>>
>>> There are at least --as I could not catch the words clearly
>>>
>>> "Caught in a web, looked from the (world!?). Hanging out by threads ..."
>>>
>>> https://youtu.be/j_hg6NFab-k
>>>
>>> A musical composition is also architectural: "architecture" is about
>>> "framing":
>>>
>>> "The situation of music seems no different and perhaps em-
>>> bodies the frame even more powerfully. Yet it is said that
>>> sound has no frame. But compounds of sensation, sonorous
>>> blocs, equally possess sections or framing fonns each of
>>> which must join together to secure a certain closing-off...".
>>>
>>> (G. Deleuze & F. Guattari, "What is Philosophy" p. 189-91)
>>>
>>> https://www.pdfdrive.com/what-is-philosophy-e184603896.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regard,
>>> Guntur Wiseno Putra
>>>
>>>