- From: Andy Heath <andyheath@axelrod.plus.com>
- Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 22:55:42 +0000
- To: public-indie-ui@w3.org
Belated apologies for missing the call - I really don't know where my brain went today, I confused my diary reminders for two different calls. I'm suspecting before the end of this work we may have an Alzheimers patient in the group (me) to practise implementations on ;-) :-). Action items noted and responses planned. Apologies for this noise but good manners are important for me. andy > Minutes of the 28 November 2012 IndieUI meeting are posted to > http://www.w3.org/2012/11/28-indie-ui-minutes.html and copied below. > > > Independent User Interface Task Force Teleconference > > > 28 Nov 2012 > > Agenda > <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-indie-ui/2012Nov/0040.html> > > See also: IRC log <http://www.w3.org/2012/11/28-indie-ui-irc> > > > Attendees > > Present > Katie_Haritos-Shea, Joseph_Scheuhammer, James_Craig, Michael_Cooper, > hober, Rich, [Apple] > Regrets > Janina_Sajka > Chair > Michael_Cooper > Scribe > ryladog, MichaelC > > > Contents > > * Topics <http://www.w3.org/2012/11/28-indie-ui-minutes.html#agenda> > 1. Telecon Time Scheduling > <http://www.w3.org/2012/11/28-indie-ui-minutes.html#item01> > 2. Editors Draft > <http://www.w3.org/2012/11/28-indie-ui-minutes.html#item02> > 3. Edits <http://www.w3.org/2012/11/28-indie-ui-minutes.html#item03> > 4. OPen Action Item > <http://www.w3.org/2012/11/28-indie-ui-minutes.html#item04> > * Summary of Action Items > <http://www.w3.org/2012/11/28-indie-ui-minutes.html#ActionSummary> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > <trackbot> Date: 28 November 2012 > > <Ryladog> scribe:ryladog > > > Telecon Time Scheduling > > MC: Time 6pm eastern with one bi-weekly at the other time > ... One ever 4 weeks at any particular call time > ... Is that a correct summary? > ... Is this a good idea to have alternating call times? > > RS: good idea > > <jcraig> +1 > > +1 > > <clown> http://www.w3.org/2012/11/14-indie-ui-minutes.html#item02 > > MC: One every 4 weeks at this time, and once every 4 weeks at the other time > ... Resolutions: Indie UI will designate alternate call times > ... Not sure if it went to the list > > <jcraig> The specific time of the other call should go to the list > > MC: Suggested Easter 1pm and 5pm on Wenesdays > ... Suggested Eastern Time 1pm and 5pm on Wednesdays > > > Editors Draft > > > Edits > > JC: I have a list that I am working on > ... some are substance and some are editorial > ... Probably not controversial, but may need some discussion > > <MichaelC> IndieUI Events Editors´ Draft > <https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/IndieUI/raw-file/tip/src/indie-ui-events.html> > > MC: To follow progress please look at this ediotrs darft > > > OPen Action Item > > MC: Most are for folks that are not here today > > <MichaelC> Open Actions <https://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/track/actions/open> > > <MichaelC> action-29? > > <trackbot> ACTION-29 -- Sangwhan Moon to send list of Opera use cases > and suggest requirements for mainstream events -- due 2012-12-01 -- OPEN > > <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/track/actions/29 > > MC: Pending Operra Use Cases > > <MichaelC> action-18 > > <clown> action-18? > > <trackbot> ACTION-18 -- Andy Heath to summarize important or common > preferences/keys list from AfA/APIP/GPII, etc. and send to the IndieUI > group for discussion and potential inclusion in the User Context > deliverable. -- due 2012-11-08 -- OPEN > > <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/track/actions/18 > > MC: Andy has one that is not urgent. Should we postpone the due date to > 31 january? > ... JC says yes > > <MichaelC> action-18 due 31 January > > <trackbot> ACTION-18 Summarize important or common preferences/keys list > from AfA/APIP/GPII, etc. and send to the IndieUI group for discussion > and potential inclusion in the User Context deliverable. due date now 31 > January > > MC: All other actons are on James > ... Did we complete the wa;lthrough at the F2F? > > JC: yes > > MC: What can we get other people in the Working Group working on in the > meantime? > ... Do we to be making proposals for features? Putting togehter test cases > > JC: It may be early for that. > > MC: Is there any way that wwe could assign so of the wok to anyone else? > > JC: Awaiting for something from Andy. Maybe that is his action item we > just postponed > ... Maaybe it was not an official action > > <clown> http://www.w3.org/2012/11/14-indie-ui-minutes.html > > JC: It is down the list, it says, Andy agreed to send text to the list > about user settings, sometime whether a natvie device cannot support a > feature > > <MichaelC> *ACTION:* andy to send suggested text about implict vs > explict user settings and sending preferences even if client doesn´t > support [recorded in > http://www.w3.org/2012/11/28-indie-ui-minutes.html#action01] > > <trackbot> Created ACTION-32 - Send suggested text about implict vs > explict user settings and sending preferences even if client doesn´t > support [on Andy Heath - due 2012-12-05]. > > <MichaelC> action-32: also see discussion at > http://www.w3.org/2012/11/14-indie-ui-minutes.html#item04 > > <trackbot> ACTION-32 Send suggested text about implict vs explict user > settings and sending preferences even if client doesn´t support notes added > > <MichaelC> action-13? > > <trackbot> ACTION-13 -- James Craig to add event for moving focus to the > app toolbar -- due 2012-10-31 -- OPEN > > <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/track/actions/13 > > JC: Maybe something that would be covered by there are contects where > standard tab navigation is overwriten. Aria 2 you will be able to edit this > ... THere is a key command on Mac and maybe on windows, that you move > the toolbar, amybe we could expose this so editing the toolbar > ... It is specifically where tab and shift tab is overwritten > ... If you tab into the text edit field, tab is going to insert a text > cahracter > > JC; Using Ctrl+F5 > > Joseph: It doesnt work for me > > JC: You have to enable all controls in keyboard shortcuts > > Joseph: F5 is set to do that, but it is nnit doing that > ... In ARIA Best Oractices we have a way to do this > > JC: Compose a new message, try it there > > Joseph: Thunderbird might not > > JC: The purpose of this is we want an explicit event to that is like a > focus change and a key for different navigation mechanisms with > subsequent panels > ... Maybe you could cycle through th toolbar. Like an implicit landmark > like navigation > > Joseph: Yes, that is like a gui navigation > ... I like that > > <richardschwerdtfeger> can you not hear me > > <richardschwerdtfeger> ? > > no > > RS: We have to deal with the lanmarks being nested > ... and we fo this on the CK editor > ... Ypu want to be able to go to the toolbar, I agree we need to ave > some kind of mechanism to go to the toolbar. And we need to fins a way to do > ... navigation,but remeber that it ma be nested > ... What were you thinking James? > > <jcraig_> focus events, with particular token values like toolbar, > panel, main, > > JC: Some of those could match up with landmarks > > <jcraig> focusRequest maybe > > <clown> https://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/track/issues/open > > <MichaelC> scribe: MichaelC > > issue-2? > > <trackbot> ISSUE-2 -- Rotate -- open > > <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/track/issues/2 > > jc: discussion taking place on list > > perhaps can combine pan, zoom, rotate to variants of a single event > > via x,x coordinate, rotation degree, scale factor on a single event with > start, change, end > > so could be explict discrete event, or continuous event > > mc: need a proposal for what the event would look like > > <jcraig> My suggestion: > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-indie-ui/2012Nov/0037.html > > <jcraig> His reponse: > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-indie-ui/2012Nov/0038.html > > <scribe> *ACTION:* Rick to propose concrete feature for > UIZoomRequestEvent thread > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-indie-ui/2012Nov/0037.html > (please assign action to Michael Cooper if you don´t want to accept this > action) [recorded in > http://www.w3.org/2012/11/28-indie-ui-minutes.html#action02] > > <trackbot> Created ACTION-33 - Propose concrete feature for > UIZoomRequestEvent thread > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-indie-ui/2012Nov/0037.html > (please assign action to Michael Cooper if you don´t want to accept this > action) [on Rick Byers - due 2012-12-05]. > > <clown> issue-3? > > <trackbot> ISSUE-3 -- SecondaryAction (aka "Context Menu") -- open > > <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/track/issues/3 > > can come back later > > issue-4? > > <trackbot> ISSUE-4 -- Vendor specific preferences keys -- open > > <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/track/issues/4 > > <scribe> *ACTION:* Lachlan to post his concerns on vendor specific keys > and any information about how other groups addressing the issue > [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/11/28-indie-ui-minutes.html#action03] > > <trackbot> Created ACTION-34 - Post his concerns on vendor specific keys > and any information about how other groups addressing the issue [on > Lachlan Hunt - due 2012-12-05]. > > issue-5? > > <trackbot> ISSUE-5 -- DOM event properties specification requires > coordination with Web Apps WG -- open > > <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/track/issues/5 > > jc: to tackle after the properties in the spec > > issue-6? > > <trackbot> ISSUE-6 -- window.preferences extension to window object. > Need to coordinate with Web Apps Working Group. -- open > > <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/track/issues/6 > > jc: to tackle after the properties in the spec > > issue-7? > > <trackbot> ISSUE-7 -- Discuss drag/drop with PF and HTML (need cut/copy > markers and well as drop targets) -- open > > <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/track/issues/7 > > jc: should tackle after markRequest action completed > > > Summary of Action Items > > *[NEW]* *ACTION:* andy to send suggested text about implict vs explict > user settings and sending preferences even if client doesn´t support > [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/11/28-indie-ui-minutes.html#action01] > *[NEW]* *ACTION:* Lachlan to post his concerns on vendor specific keys > and any information about how other groups addressing the issue > [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/11/28-indie-ui-minutes.html#action03] > *[NEW]* *ACTION:* Rick to propose concrete feature for > UIZoomRequestEvent thread > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-indie-ui/2012Nov/0037.html > (please assign action to Michael Cooper if you don´t want to accept this > action) [recorded in > http://www.w3.org/2012/11/28-indie-ui-minutes.html#action02] > > [End of minutes] > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Minutes formatted by David Booth's scribe.perl > <http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/%7Echeckout%7E/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm> > version 1.137 (CVS log <http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2002/scribe/>) > $Date: 2012-11-28 19:02:53 $ > > -- > > Michael Cooper > Web Accessibility Specialist > World Wide Web Consortium, Web Accessibility Initiative > E-mail cooper@w3.org <mailto:cooper@w3.org> > Information Page <http://www.w3.org/People/cooper/> > Cheers andy -- __________________ Andy Heath http://axelafa.com
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