Fwd: Immersive Captions CG Meeting Notes: 06 March

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From: Christopher Patnoe <patnoe@google.com>
Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2024 at 14:28
Subject: Immersive Captions CG Meeting Notes: 06 March
To: Brenden Gilbert <bgilbert73@gmail.com>, Bill Curtis-Davidson <
billcurtisdavidson@gmail.com>, Hughes Chris <c.j.hughes@salford.ac.uk>,
Olga Carreras Montoto <carreras.olga@gmail.com>, Michael Cooper <
cooper-a11y@aihal.net>, Debra Kajiyama <debrak@google.com>, <
dmayers340@gmail.com>, Dylan Fox <dylan@drfoxdesign.com>, Frances Baum <
francesbaum@outlook.com>, Howard Rosenblum <howard.rosenblum@nad.org>,
hazal uzunkaya <huzunkaya@gmail.com>, Ken Harrenstien <iceklh@gmail.com>,
Immersive Captions CG <internal-immersive-captions@w3.org>, <
iris.serrat@campusviu.es>, Ken Harrenstien <klh@google.com>, Larry Goldberg
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tiffanylhendricks@gmail.com>, Vennila Vilvanathan <
v.vilvanathan@fsw.leidenuniv.nl>, Andreas Tai <w3c@andreastai.com>, Wendy
Dannels (w.dannels@rit.edu) <wadnet@ntid.rit.edu>, Bill Curtis-Davidson <
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Video/Chat/VTT
<https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1ksj7LT-1QwYx_B2FjGZyKPIPkBC3ZB05?usp=drive_link>
(Folder)


Participants

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   Christopher Patnoe
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   Dylan Fox
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   Raja Kushalnagar
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   Larry Goldberg
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   Meryl Evans
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   Ren Tyler
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   Janice McCann
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   Michael Cooper
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   Olga Carreras Montoto


Agenda:

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   Apple Pro comments
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   Our paper part of W3C RTFM
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   New Meet: https://www.meetup.com/a11yvr/events/299534636/
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   XAUR


Notes

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   LG: Apple Vision Pro experience
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      Very impressed with visuals, immersion
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      Couldn’t try accessibility features
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      Very intuitive interface
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      Setup involves taking pictures of your face and eyes, look at
      different areas of scene
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      Very good eye tracking
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      Guide unsure if videos had captions, but video did have captions &
      audio descriptions in video demo & images
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      Captions follow gaze, 100% accurate as well
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      Descriptions were very well done
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      Offered to connect with business affairs people about accessibility
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      iPhone 15 pro can take videos that feed into it (three cameras)
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      Did feel isolating to watch movies
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      Sound was amazing
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      DF: Please connect for Symposium
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      ME: Can you pair to a hearing aid or cochlear implant?
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         CP: Seems like you can
         <https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/apple-vision-pro/tan0654b02b7/visionos>
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      CP: Wonder if having more sign language material gets in the way of
      the device
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   RK: Participating in a W3C group, Research Questions Task Force (RQTF);
   want to put in guidance for W3C related to this group
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      Asking permission from the group
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      Note we would lose ability to develop document further ourselves
      without submitting pull requests
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      Would be using final report
      <https://w3c.github.io/immersive-captions-cg/360-captions/>
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      Should send email to mailing list
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   DF: Developing standards for XR of equivalent strength to WCAG 2.2
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      Possibly working through Metaverse Standards Forum


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