- From: Dan Connolly <connolly@w3.org>
- Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 08:07:32 -0500
- To: public-ietf-w3c@w3.org
Hmm... it seems I forgot to post these to the public
mailing list. Sorry for the delay...
hypertext: http://www.w3.org/2006/02/13-ietf-w3c-minutes
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IETF/W3C liaison meeting
13 Feb 2006
Attendees
Present
Philippe Le Hégaret, Dan Connolly, Thomas Roessler, John
Klensin, Ted Hardy, Leslie Daigle, Tim Berners-Lee
Regrets
Scott Hollenbeck
Chair
Philippe
Scribe
DanC
Contents
* [3]Topics
1. [4]Action items
2. [5]W3C Workshop on Transparency and Usability of Web
Authentication
3. [6]Domain Keys Identified Mail (dkim)
4. [7]DIX and DMSP BOFs
5. [8]Problems with the IETF's copying permissions
6. [9]Status update on calsify?
7. [10]Next Call
* [11]Summary of Action Items
_________________________________________________________
[PENDING] ACTION: DanC to look into adding "note well..." notice to
webdav, uri lists [recorded in
[12]http://www.w3.org/2005/08/15-ietf-w3c-minutes]
[12] http://www.w3.org/2005/08/15-ietf-w3c-minutes
[DROPPED] ACTION: Philippe to check with Martin about the status of
file: [recorded in
[13]http://www.w3.org/2005/08/15-ietf-w3c-minutes]
[13] http://www.w3.org/2005/08/15-ietf-w3c-minutes
Ted: Larry said he intends to do it
DanC: yes, I saw that
Action items
W3C Workshop on Transparency and Usability of Web Authentication
[14]Toward a More Secure Web — W3C Workshop on Transparency and
Usability of Web Authentication , 15/16 March 2006 — New York City,
USA
[14] http://www.w3.org/2005/Security/usability-ws/
Thomas: program committee is reviewing position papers. workshop is
focussed on user experience of web browsing, and security problems
there. we have participation from financial services, [missed],
browser vendors. workshop program to appear in a week or so
<timbl> User interface aspects of the browser security problem.
Domain Keys Identified Mail (dkim)
Ted: DKIM WG is chartered. 1st meeting at the upcoming Dallas IETF.
In the security area. I think the milestones in the [15]DKIM charter
are up-to-date. there were some concerns about the openness of the
original designers to accept changes, but they've acommodated
request for incompatible change
[15] http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/dkim-charter.html
DanC: some W3C members are asking about "what should a large user
org do?"
Ted: you could tell them to be sure their DNS service doesn't block
resource records.
(it would be nice to have a pointer to a nice article aimed at
sysadmins of large enterprises)
Thomas: level on consensus for the threats & reqs document?
Ted: there's WG last call and IETF last call… consensus is rough,
but basically there; there seems to be critical mass of support for
an important use case. [… some technical explanation of a case that
is not covered… zombies and granularity of domain policies… ]. Some
community disagreement about whether or not there needs to be
support for distinguishing between different e-mail addresses @ the
same domain. See also [16]Handling of Unknown DNS Resource Record
(RR) Types.
[16] http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3597.txt
(this case seems to go beyond what I see as critical requirements)
TimBL: what do the signatures look like? PGP? PKI?
<Leslie> BTW -- to refresh peoples' memories -- we did talk about
DKIM on our last call (at the time it had bof'ed once, and was
lining up to BOF in Vancouver)
Ted: it's like disconnected CMS in S/MIME, but it's new… a critical
question is: which parts of the message are signed?
DIX and DMSP BOFs
Ted: the DMSP is a proposal for a [17]Distributed Multimodal
Synchronization Protocol. a protocol for stuff that goes between
components of, e.g., a voice browsing system [?]
[17] http://www.rfc-editor.org/internet-drafts/draft-engelsma-dmsp-01.txt
Ted: DIX didn't make Vancouver, but are having a BOF in Dallas. See
[18]IETF 65 BOF Announcement: Digital Identity Exchange (DIX)
[18] http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/dix/current/msg00246.html
<Thomas> DIX BOF won't be reviewing a charter
<Thomas> Folks involved in SAML agree it's not too much of an
overlap
Ted: DSMP BOF is unlikely for Dallas; they may have time in the
Real-Time Applications and Infrastucture (RAI) Area open meeting
[19]Multimodal Interaction Activity]
[19] http://www.w3.org/2002/mmi/
Thomas: interaction with MS Infocard?
(I'm curious about DIX compared to OpenID too.)
Ted: dunno; ask scott in email?
[Ted is excused]
<Leslie> speaking as a mailing list reader, not anything else — it
seems like the dix proposal as currently stated is very much in
danger of overruning other efforts. That's one of the things that
will have to get fixed.
Problems with the IETF's copying permissions
Philippe: It looks like there are issues with the copying
permissions in the IETF [20]Problems with the IETF's copying
permissions…
[20] http://josefsson.org/bcp78broken/
John: yes, we've heard that issue raised. it's an ongoing
discussion.
“The license in RFC 2026 [$1\47] gave third parties the right to
produce unrestricted derivative works, under some conditions.”
John: it's a question of rights to produce derivative works,
expecially code excerpts
Dan: ah. yes. W3C has a separate software license for those reasons.
Status update on calsify?
no news.
DanC: I'm curious about VCalendar testing… esp w.r.t. hCalendar and
microformats
no urgency
Next Call
<plh> Monday, October 2, 2006, 2pm Eastern?
Leslie: as opposed to 3x/yr?. 1st week June?
June 5, 2006, 2pm Eastern?
Mon, 5 Jun 2006 2p Boston time OK for Dan
RESOLUTION: to meet again Mon, 5 Jun 2006 2pm Boston time. Leslie to
chair, though various risks noted
Summary of Action Items
* [PENDING] ACTION: DanC to look into adding "note well..." notice
to webdav, uri lists [recorded in
[21]http://www.w3.org/2005/08/15-ietf-w3c-minutes]
[21] http://www.w3.org/2005/08/15-ietf-w3c-minutes
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