Minutes - IDCG agenda for 1 September

> On 29 Aug 2020, at 00:09 , Coralie Mercier <coralie@w3.org> wrote:
> 
> […]
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> Agenda:
> 1. BLM statement status update
> 2. Diversity fund update, applications framework
> 3. Actions updates
> https://github.com/w3c/idcg/issues/

The minutes of yesterday’s meeting are available:
  https://www.w3.org/2020/09/01-idcg-minutes.html

Text version:
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                              IDCG Meeting
                           01 September 2020

   [2]Agenda. [3]IRC log.
      [2] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-idcg/2020Aug/0049.html
      [3] https://www.w3.org/2020/09/01-idcg-irc

Attendees
   Present
          Coralie, DKA, hober, Jeff, Judy, melanierichards, Rhian,
          tzviya, wendyreid
   Regrets
          Barb, Léonie
   Chair
          Coralie
   Scribe
          jeff__, koalie

Contents
    1. [4]BLM statement status update
    2. [5]Diversity fund update, applications framework
    3. [6]Action updates

Meeting minutes

   <koalie> [7]Previous (2020-08-18)

      [7] https://www.w3.org/2020/08/18-idcg-minutes.html

  BLM statement status update

   <koalie> Coralie: formal objection resolution progressing

   <koalie> ... Ralph is the Director's delegate in charge

   <koalie> ... Kim Crayton may give us advice

   <koalie> ... thanks to all who weighed in on the thread in the
   formal objection resolution

   <koalie> Judy: I'd like to weigh in on Marisa's good summary

   <koalie> ... May I still comment on the thread despite deadline
   passed?

   <koalie> CM: I suggest if you can, that you share your feedback
   and let ralph take it or not

   <Zakim> tzviya, you wanted to ask about Kim Crayton feedback?

   Tzviya: Leonie said we get feedback just on the statement
   … but I would be interested in hearing her views about
   everything
   … even if it means going back to the AC

   Coralie: I concur

   Judy: I would caution getting definitive feedback from any one
   person
   … makes it increasingly complicated

   Coralie: We are aware of timing issue
   … process is long
   … aiming for sweet spot between external review and another AC
   review cycle
   … acknowledging that we are late

   Dan: I have immense respect for Kim's feedback
   … her response might be to look for an appropriate consulting
   fee
   … concerned about gating it to her feedback

  Diversity fund update, applications framework

   Coralie: Wanted to discuss [8]application framework
   … I've received no feedback
   … one week left
   … will know soon about possibility to pay for elderly/child
   care
   … MIT can not reimburse this
   … checking with ERCIM

      [8] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-idcg/2020Aug/0041.html

  Action updates

   <koalie> [9]https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-idcg/
   2020Sep/0000.html

      [9] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-idcg/2020Sep/0000.html

   Judy: Making W3C more welcoming
   … wiki based discussion
   … some top level statements
   … now a home page that reflects some of those
   … long list of individual actions

   <Judy> [10]https://github.com/w3c/idcg/wiki

     [10] https://github.com/w3c/idcg/wiki

   Judy: general wiki ^^
   … subpages for welcoming; learning and discussions
   … outreach and messaging
   … Coralie working on "w3C message to accompany publication of
   (BLM) statement"
   … can we set milestones on actions?
   … manage it that way

   Coralie: I created specific action for introductory blurb for
   BLM statement
   … intend to proceed alone (at first), then seek feedback
   … For milestones for actions, I would leave it up to the people
   … you could do it for your subgroup
   … you said you worked on this in late July
   … but I did not open links
   … did you want to summarize?

   Judy: I suggest proceeding down issue list
   … my impression is that we stalled in August
   … would like to regain momentum
   … pockets of activity

   <Zakim> tzviya, you wanted to ask about additional resources
   for reading list

   <tzviya> [11]https://github.com/w3c/PWETF/blob/master/
   ReferencesAndResources.md

     [11] https://github.com/w3c/PWETF/blob/master/ReferencesAndResources.md

   Tzviya: Reading list ^^
   … added article Tess sent around
   … I really recommend

   <koalie> [12]Issue-16: Curate reading lists

     [12] https://github.com/w3c/idcg/issues/16

   Tzviya: we need articles about sexism
   … we only have about racism and harassment
   … want to reorganize the list

   <Judy> [13]https://github.com/w3c/idcg/wiki/
   Learning-and-Discussion

     [13] https://github.com/w3c/idcg/wiki/Learning-and-Discussion

   Judy: Might be useful to point to learning and discussion
   … reading list on page
   … also companion activities
   … drive discussion
   … encourage groups
   … Vagner had commented that we should track outcomes
   … so this page shows some outcomes
   … little done to date

   <Judy> [14]https://github.com/w3c/idcg/wiki/
   Learning-and-Discussion#status

     [14] https://github.com/w3c/idcg/wiki/Learning-and-Discussion#status

   Coralie: since we are only 9 people, and some are not here to
   debrief if we go down the issue list

   <Judy> [JB: ...except starting to populate the reading list,
   but will need companion actions to get people discussing and
   using the materials]

   Coralie: does anyone here want to debrief, summarize, or seek
   help?

   [crickets]

   Coralie: I've sorted issue list by last activity

   Tzviya: We are at the end of our formal agenda
   … I sense this meeting wants us to do something
   … not sure how to move forward
   … we are accustomed to creating issue lists
   … but it's harder when we want to drive social change
   … what can we actually do?
   … stagnated issue lists will not get us there
   … Twitter discussion concluded no sexism at W3C
   … not really true
   … how do we actually get the word out?
   … Tess' masculine defaults article was interesting
   … institutions may themselves be sexist
   … in a Tenure track university there might be equal time off
   for child rearing
   … but then men continue their writing and women care for the
   children
   … looks equal, but actually advances men
   … how can we actually promote equity at W3C?

   <Zakim> Judy, you wanted to mention [15]https://github.com/w3c/
   idcg/wiki/Learning-and-Discussion#sub-actions as an example of
   companion actions to promote change and action

     [15] https://github.com/w3c/idcg/wiki/Learning-and-Discussion#sub-actions

   Judy: I may be an anomaly
   … worked with many social change groups
   … so I am not working from a GH list of unrelated topics
   … interested in learning and discussion
   … what is a reading list worth unless we vet it as applicable
   to W3C
   … need to promote discussion
   … discussion must also be outside of CG
   … W3C has a huge footprint
   … international context
   … fill gaps in reading list and push it out

   <Zakim> DKA_, you wanted to suggest an action we can take along
   side of [16]https://github.com/w3c/idcg/issues/11

     [16] https://github.com/w3c/idcg/issues/11

   Dan: I appreciate Tzviya's injection of energy
   … inspired me to look down the list
   … what can we do?
   … I've been involved in Global Diversity CFP day
   … distributed event for people from underrepresented groups
   … make proposals to speak
   … get mentored by experienced people
   … write bio; conference talk proposal; what types of events;
   topics; ideas
   … we should run a distributed workshop
   … in line with issue #11
   … how to get started in standards
   … promote it to underrepresented groups
   … "standards, participation, diversity day"
   … I could help organize

   <tzviya> +1 to DKA_ 's idea

   WendyR: +1 to Dan's idea - lots of fun

   <koalie> +1 to DKA

   WendyR: Tzviya mentioned Twitter discussion; Tess' pointer to
   an article
   … aligns to my new WG getting started
   … CEPC
   … alternate workmodes; how do we accommodate

   <DKA_> Global Diversity CFP Day: [17]https://
   www.globaldiversitycfpday.com/

     [17] https://www.globaldiversitycfpday.com/

   WendyR: Twitter discussion highlighted it
   … some people thrive speaking their mind in W3C/q+ structure
   … unfazed by community of experts
   … but some don't
   … working well is culturally a north american male default
   … not necessarily in other cultures
   … in some countries you cannot speak up before your boss
   … I plan to do more research
   … half of my members are Japanese (for my WG)
   … I don't speak Japanese; although my co-chair does
   … we need to break the NA default

   Jeff: +1 in particular to what Judy said: let's expand our
   advocates beyond this group
   … W3M agrees
   … We've asked Wendy to speak at the W3C Advisory Committee
   meeting next month
   … one of the questions is what are the messages?
   … the biggest D&I problem we have in W3C is we don't have
   enough D&I
   … most of our participants are designated by their AC reps
   … deputizing the AC to extend the reach of this group is to my
   mind the most powerful way to create social change
   … I haven't prepared talking points for AC reps

   <DKA_> +1 to encouraging the AC to become a part of this
   effort.

   Jeff: but this sounds useful to help Wendy with in the next
   several weeks

   <Zakim> tzviya, you wanted to respond to jeff__

   Tzviya: Most important message to the AC is that W3C has huge
   diversity and inclusion issues
   … if you don't believe; realize that most AC reps are men
   … that effects how W3C works
   … W3C is setting standards for the entire web so we need
   diversity supporting this
   … AC rep must appoint a diverse set of participants
   … maybe Wendy should emphasize this
   … we need to recognize our biases
   … and take action to change

   Judy: Message to the AC should be multi-faceted
   … many organizations are aware of diversity issues
   … in W3C; in their own orgs
   … collective set of resources are missing
   … we can promote engagement in IDCG
   … well vetted set of things to learn from; actions such as
   mentoring
   … like to encourage parallel actions in community
   … partly I'm modeling this from accessibility
   … we bring people together
   … we can do here
   … Wendy can help convey

   WendyR: I like the message

   WendyR: AoB question
   … are we sending the statement to Kim Crayton this week?

   Coralie: Yes.
   … Tobie intends to write to her
   … this week
   … meanwhile we are on hold

   [adjourned]


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