- From: <jrmt@almas.co.jp>
- Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2016 15:13:50 +0900
- To: "'Greg Eck'" <greck@postone.net>, "'Erdenechimeg Myatav'" <erdeely@gmail.com>
- Cc: <public-i18n-mongolian@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <005b01d14f5b$e7360370$b5a20a50$@almas.co.jp>
Hi Greg, >The caveat that I did not think to mention is that the FVS4, being multi-purpose in design, would not change any existing FVS assignments, but would be the FVS of choice for future default selection. We can agree this partially. But it is better to apply to explicitly specifying default form of all of the characters which have context-driven logic necessary. It will be the real perfect solution for the default form over-riding logic. > I am concerned about the economy of the character however – the usage will be very small and infrequent I can list out following characters should use this FVS4 or (DVS-default variant selector /BVS – base variant selector) 1. ZWJ+1826+FVS3+ZWJ => ZWJ+1826+FVS4+ZWJ 2. ZWJ+1828+FVS4+ZWJ => ZWJ+1828+FVS4+ZWJ 3. NEW => 182D+FVS2+ZWJ (Because 182D+FVS2+ZWJ is context driven) 4. ZWJ+182D+FVS4+ZWJ => ZWJ+182D+FVS4+ZWJ 5. NEW => ZWJ+1833+FVS1+ZWJ (Because ZWJ+1833+FVS1+ZWJ is context driven) 6. NEW => 1836+FVS4+ZWJ (Because 1836+FVS1+ZWJ is context driven) 7. NEW => ZWJ+1836+FVS4+ZWJ (Because ZWJ+1836+FVS1+ZWJ is context driven) 8. NEW => ZWJ+1838+FVS4+ZWJ (Because ZWJ+1838+FVS1+ZWJ is context driven) 9. NEW => ZWJ+1843+FVS1 (Because ZWJ+1843+FVS1 is context driven) 10. NEW => ZWJ+1845+FVS4+ZWJ (Because ZWJ+1845+FVS1+ZWJ is context driven) 11. NEW => ZWJ+1847+FVS4+ZWJ (Because ZWJ+1847+FVS2+ZWJ is context driven) 12. NEW => ZWJ+1847+FVS4 (Because ZWJ+1847+FVS1 is context driven) 13. NEW => ZWJ+184E+FVS4+ZWJ (Because ZWJ+184E+FVS2+ZWJ is context driven) 14. NEW => ZWJ+185D+FVS4+ZWJ (Because ZWJ+185D+FVS2+ZWJ is context driven) 15. NEW => ZWJ+185D+FVS4 (Because ZWJ+185D+FVS1 is context driven) 16. NEW => ZWJ+185E+FVS4+ZWJ (Because ZWJ+185E+FVS1+ZWJ and ZWJ+185E+FVS2+ZWJ are context driven) 17. NEW => ZWJ+185E+FVS4 (Because ZWJ+185E+FVS1 and ZWJ+185E+FVS2 are context driven) 18. NEW => ZWJ+1860+FVS4+ZWJ (Because ZWJ+1860+FVS1+ZWJ is context driven) 19. NEW => ZWJ+1860+FVS4 (Because ZWJ+1860+FVS1 and ZWJ+1860+FVS2 are context driven) 20. NEW => ZWJ+1863+FVS4+ZWJ (Because ZWJ+1863+FVS1+ZWJ is context driven) 21. NEW => 1868+FVS4+ZWJ (Because 1868+FVS1+ZWJ is context driven) 22. NEW => ZWJ+1868+FVS4+ZWJ (Because ZWJ+1868+FVS1+ZWJ and ZWJ+1868+FVS2+ZWJ are context driven) 23. NEW => 1869+FVS4+ZWJ (Because 1869+FVS1+ZWJ is context driven) 24. NEW => ZWJ+1869+FVS4 (Because ZWJ+1869+FVS1 is context driven) 25. NEW => 186F+FVS4+ZWJ (Because 186F+FVS1+ZWJ is context driven) 26. NEW => ZWJ+186F+FVS4+ZWJ (Because ZWJ+186F+FVS1+ZWJ is context driven) 27. NEW => ZWJ+1873+FVS4+ZWJ (Because ZWJ+1873+FVS1+ZWJ is context driven) 28. NEW => ZWJ+1873+FVS4 (Because ZWJ+1873+FVS1 is context driven) 29. NEW => ZWJ+1874+FVS4+ZWJ (Because ZWJ+1874+FVS1+ZWJ, ZWJ+1874+FVS2+ZWJ are context driven) 30. NEW => ZWJ+1874+FVS4 (Because ZWJ+1874+FVS1 is context driven) 31. NEW => 1876+FVS4+ZWJ (Because 1876+FVS1+ZWJ is context driven) 32. NEW => ZWJ+1876+FVS4+ZWJ (Because ZWJ+1876+FVS1+ZWJ is context driven) 33. ZWJ+1887+FVS4 => ZWJ+1887+FVS4 (Special ) 34. NEW => ZWJ+1888+FVS4+ZWJ (Because ZWJ+1888+FVS1+ZWJ is context driven) 35. NEW => ZWJ+1888+FVS4 (Because ZWJ+1888+FVS1 is context driven) 36. NEW => ZWJ+188A+FVS4 (Because ZWJ+188A+FVS1 is context driven) 37. NEW => ZWJ+188A+FVS4+ZWJ (Because ZWJ+188A+FVS1+ZWJ is context driven) 38. NEW => ZWJ+18A0+FVS4 (Because ZWJ+18A0+FVS1 is context driven) 39. NEW => ZWJ+18A0+FVS4+ZWJ (Because ZWJ+18A0+FVS1+ZWJ is context driven) 40. NEW => ZWJ+18A1+FVS4 (Because ZWJ+18A1+FVS1 is context driven) 41. NEW => ZWJ+18A1+FVS4+ZWJ (Because ZWJ+18A1+FVS1+ZWJ is context driven) These characters all should use the default variant selector (FVS4) to over-ride their default variant form after it is automatically change to other context driven variant form. Form this reason, the naming and definition should be easy to recognize and simple to handle. Thanks and Best Regards, Jirimutu =============================================================== Almas Inc. 101-0021 601 Nitto-Bldg, 6-15-11, Soto-Kanda, Chiyoda-ku, Tokyo E-Mail: <mailto:jrmt@almas.co.jp> jrmt@almas.co.jp Mobile : 090-6174-6115 Phone : 03-5688-2081, Fax : 03-5688-2082 <http://www.almas.co.jp/> http://www.almas.co.jp/ <http://www.compiere-japan.com/> http://www.compiere-japan.com/ <http://www.mongolfont.com/> http://www.mongolfont.com/ =============================================================== From: Greg Eck [mailto:greck@postone.net] Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 10:06 AM To: Erdenechimeg Myatav <erdeely@gmail.com> Cc: public-i18n-mongolian@w3.org Subject: RE: New Proposal Status Hi Erdenechimeg, The caveat that I did not think to mention is that the FVS4, being multi-purpose in design, would not change any existing FVS assignments, but would be the FVS of choice for future default selection. I am not for the idea of changing U+182D+FVS1_final over-ride default. I would see a new approach to the new variant forms such as the 1822 medial over-ride default and the 182D medial over-ride default in using the FVS4 even if there is an FVS3 slot available. Thanks, Greg >>>>> Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 12:21 AM Subject: Re: New Proposal Status In principle I don't see any problem with your counter suggestion. The only thing that I can see that might be an issue is that the table of variants might become a little confusing - for example, for the final forms of GA (see attached picture), the second final form would then be generated using FVS4 instead of FVS1 and it then seems a little strange that the third final form is generated with FVS2. Would it perhaps be possible to move the form that is identical to the default form to the bottom of the list of variants in every case? (i.e. for final GA this would mean switching over what are currently the second and third final forms) Admittedly this would still leave gaps in the variant selector sequence - we would have the second final form generated by FVS1 and the third by FVS4 - but to me at least that seems less confusing and people could probably live with it. Erdenechimeg >>>>>
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