- From: siqin <siqin@almas.co.jp>
- Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 11:10:59 +0900
- To: Greg Eck <greck@postone.net>, "public-i18n-mongolian@w3.org" <public-i18n-mongolian@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <566F76B3.5090605@almas.co.jp>
Hi Greg, As Jirimutu mentioned, U+180A Nirugu should have exactly same form in Initial, Medial, Final and Isolate default form. If we need any kinds of variant form definition, we should use FVS1-3. It is better to like nirugu.png, I think. SiqinBilige. > Hi Jirimutu, > > OK, on the 180A hook, maybe we make one Final-FVS1 assignment with a > hook – it that what you are envisioning? The default Isolate, Initial, > Medial, Final are all identical. > > I think you are one number off – U+1806 is the Todo Hyphen, U+1807 is > the Sibe Syllable Marker. > > Greg > > *>>>>>* > > *Sent:*Tuesday, October 27, 2015 10:15 AM > *Subject:* RE: U+180A Nirugu > > U+180A Nirugu should have exactly same form in Initial, Medial, Final > and Isolate default form. > > Otherwise it will lost the meaning of NIRUGU ( backbone ), if we need > any kinds of variant form definition, we should use FVS1-3. > > The usage of NIRUGU should have same with ZWJ but NIRUGU have its own > length and rectangle shape with same width with other character’s > backbone part. > > But NIRUGU is Mongolian Character not punctuation, while U+1807 TODO > Hyphen is a punctuation. > > We use it in following case > > 1)Use it as ZWJ with longer backbone for initial, medial, and final > form of the Mongolian Characters > > 2)Use it between Initial E and N to distinguish between the A,ᠡ᠊ᠨᠳᠡ ·ᠠᠳᠠ > > 3)Use it between two word Name (People’s name and Place Name) ᠠᠯᠲᠠᠨ᠊ᠣ᠋ᠳᠣ > > Jirimutu On 2015/12/14 19:29, Greg Eck wrote: > > Here are our current set of action points from our discussions. Please > let me know if I am leaving anything out … > > 1.)Adobe Acrobat dropping NNBSP upon cut-and-paste. *Jirimutu, are you > going to follow-up on this one?* > > 2.)U+1885 Baluda / U+1886 Triple Baluda proposal to change features so > that the glyphs function as marks rather than in-line letters – *Does > someone want to volunteer to write this up? Or guide me in the process?* > > 3.)*Do we have agreement on the Isolate layout on the attached DS01 > document?* I followed the set of principles sent out in the last > email. If we have agreement, then I will get with Richard Ishida and > see if we can get the changes on the font comparator site. > > 4.)Regarding the U+1828_NA – I don’t know how many are using a toggle > design to turn the NA dotting off and on. We had a problem of > available FVS’s at the medial location. If we say that the design is > actually a toggle, it takes care of the space problem as we no longer > need the FVS4 for the default over-ride. *Everyone, please let me know > if this is an acceptable specification.* If not, then we may need to > add the medial default over-ride with either VS01 or a new FVS4. > > 5.)*Martin, I suggest that we wait on any of the Manchu work that you > have brought up. Is this OK?* There will be a new Chinese standard > coming out next year sometime. That might be a good time to look at > the Manchu additions as they will no doubt have some of the same > additions that you are suggesting. > > 6.)We found one mistake in the specification during our Hohot > Discussions – that of the U+1887 Second Isolate. This form is actually > a final and requires a new VS assignment – either VS01 or FVS4. For > now, I have changed it to the Final+FVS4 in the DS01 document. *Should > we propose another FVS4 or use the VS01? Either one brings a good > amount of work with it. But, we might be safer in staying with the FVS > set and propose FVS4. We are already looking at other situations > needing the FVS4 (U+182D_Medial, possibly U+1828_Medial). What does > everyone think?* > > 7.)FYI – The DS01 document has been fully updated and attached. > > 8.)FYI – The 15 Unicode code-point glyphs (actually 13) mentioned > earlier are now marked in the DS01 as being displayable only by using > ZWJ. It might be good for them all to be displayable with a standard > format – such as an FVS. > > 9.)FYI – The six FVS “mis-matches” (U+1820, U+1828, U+182C, U+182D, > U+1835, U+1836) have been backed out of the DS01 document. This makes > our NP proposal compatible with the Chinese Standard except in one > location (U+182D_SecondIsolate uses a ZWJ). The Font Comparator site > will follow suit – sorry to ask you to do that Richard. > > 10.)FYI – The new variant glyphs we have agreed upon are highlighted > in purple on the DS01 attached. Professor Quejingzhabu asks that we > wait on pushing ahead with the specification of these as they have > many of them in the works already in the new Chinese standard coming > out next year. I agree with this as we might end up with conflicting > specifications. > > Let’s see if we can get this wrapped up for the new year of 2016. > > Greg >
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