- From: <jrmt@almas.co.jp>
- Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 17:16:23 +0900
- To: "'Greg Eck'" <greck@postone.net>, "'siqin'" <siqin@almas.co.jp>, <public-i18n-mongolian@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <003601d10a46$75212530$5f636f90$@almas.co.jp>
Hi Greg, According to Erdenchimeg’s post in August 4th , there are one word qqir, is the example of Initial feminine U+182C form. In Inner Mongolia we all spell it as gqir, but if anyone like to spell it as qqir, we have no reason to reject it actually. It is can be qqir, qgir, gqir, ggir actually, according to its display form. We have not find any example word for medial feminine form. But like Siqin’ s raised usage text, We will display it in the text for explanation. What our request is leave this two form encoding ( U+182C feminine initial and medial form) in the Unicode list. Thanks and Best regards, Jirimutu =============================================================== Almas Inc. 101-0021 601 Nitto-Bldg, 6-15-11, Soto-Kanda, Chiyoda-ku, Tokyo E-Mail: jrmt@almas.co.jp <mailto:jrmt@almas.co.jp> Mobile : 090-6174-6115 Phone : 03-5688-2081, Fax : 03-5688-2082 http://www.almas.co.jp/ http://www.compiere-japan.com/ http://www.mongolfont.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------- Inner Mongolia Delehi Information Technology Co. Ltd. 010010 13th floor of Uiles Hotel, No 89 XinHua east street XinCheng District, Hohhot, Inner Mongolia Mail: jirimutu@delehi.com <mailto:jirimutu@delehi.com> Mobile:18647152148 Phone: +86-471-6661969, Ofiice: +86-471-6661995 http://www.delehi.com/ =============================================================== From: Greg Eck [mailto:greck@postone.net] Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2015 12:45 AM To: siqin <siqin@almas.co.jp>; public-i18n-mongolian@w3.org Subject: RE: Summary of what we have covered ... Let’s break the question into two parts … 1.) Do we have an attested Final U+182C? I understand that the answer is no as it is ungrammatical. Would one ever be justified in spelling a foreign word with a final U+182C? I am not sure, but it would seem not so. Can we say, then, that our question does not involve the U+182C Final? 2.) If the above answer is “No, there is no attested form”, then we are left with just the U+182C initial and medial feminine forms. On October 9, I submitted a DS02 document which attempts to show all possible mandatory ligature forms using the feminine loops. I argue that since the feminine never actually appears on its own in running script, that since it is rather the ligated form that only appears, there is really no need to specify the initial/medial forms. The isolate form allows us to talk about the glyph. No one commented on the October 9 email, so I took that to mean that there was no problem there and colored them green. Can you present your argument for the need to specify U+182C initial and medial feminine loop forms? This would mean that other developers should also state the need. My question is, “Does the glyph ever actually get painted to the screen?” If it does not get painted to the screen, then let’s not specify it. Greg >>>>> Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 9:57 AM Subject: Re: Summary of what we have covered ... There is no initial,middle,(final) feminine H(182C) ? http://r12a.github.io/scripts/mongolian/variants.html 182C_initial_middle_feminine.jpg SiqinBilige. >>>>>
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