- From: Greg Eck <greck@postone.net>
- Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2015 13:55:02 +0000
- To: Richard Wordingham <richard.wordingham@ntlworld.com>, "public-i18n-mongolian@w3.org" <public-i18n-mongolian@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <SN1PR10MB09434C377DEC548894E875E1AF540@SN1PR10MB0943.namprd10.prod.outlook.com>
Hi Richard,
Let's say as you suggest that AN+FVS1+AR is our main case for the medial not-dotting behavior of NA.
But you have raised a good question on the example of ALTANUDO. Does our rule
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If (Initial_Vowel+N+Mongolian_Vowel) OR (Medial_Vowel+N+Mongolian_Vowel)
then N ← Second Medial Form (dotted medial NA)
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indeed say that "Mongolian_Vowel" includes the medial form of O with the tooth <ZWJ><U+1823><U+180B><ZWJ>?
Erdenechimeg, could you comment on this question?
Richard, I have taken the liberty to add the two images to your email thread without the dots as desired.
Greg
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If I understand the argument correctly, it is being said that medial <NA, FVS2> is needed to encode dotlessness. While I accept that dotlessness does need to be encoded, I don't accept ᠠᠯᠲᠠᠨᠤ᠋ᠳ᠋ᠤ (Altanodu) as a valid example. [cid:image001.jpg@01D0E9A5.6E7680C0] Graphic images added by Greg [cid:image002.jpg@01D0E9A5.6E7680C0]
I believe a relevant, though otherwise less important, example, is the undotted traditional spelling of ᠠᠨᠠᠷ anar in row 6 of the examples on pp5-6 in TR170 and in Table 9 of GB/T 26226-2010. The table has me confused, though. It implies that in medial <NA, FVS1>, FVS1 toggles the dotting off, though in Table A of the standard, removing the dotting from medial NA seems to be the job of FVS3. TR170 does not have the equivalent of Table A of the Chinese standard.
My objection to 'Altanodu' is that NA should not, without a variation selector, be dotted before a vowel with an extra tooth. <O, FVS1> marks the start of a syllable as well as recording the vowel, and therefore the previous NA belongs to the previous syllable, and is therefore dotless.
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