JLReq TF meeting notes 8/24

https://github.com/w3c/jlreq/issues/297 <https://github.com/w3c/jlreq/issues/297>

JLReq next major revision 

Discussed the top level overview. The goal is to share people’s expectations.
Kobayashi-san expressed his expectations
It will be digital native and will based on reflow-able architecture.
Would like to add descriptions of abstract layout features and writing systems. Analyze actual layout features based on their abstract functions. For example Running Heads is one form of the navigation item. Should decide if each layout feature is truly necessary because there are many alternatives on digital media.
As the media moves from papers with fixed size to screen that do not have inherent size, many features that belonged to the page would change its nature. The design rules that has been established on paper do not make sense any more.
Would like to maintain the beauty of Japanese page layout, the beauty of empty spaces between page items.  They would still make sense even on digital media with flexible screen size (Nat) → todo: write it up
Accessibility is one of the important new content. It often helps wider range of people.
Kida expressed his expectations
It will be the digital native version of JLReq. Established practices, modified inevitably by the nature of digital devices. It will not be a place for experiments. Would like to maintain the flavour of normativeness the current version has.
Not sure if we should add discussions that are language independent too much. It will not be an expectation for xlreq. Let’s limit them to the extent and places where they are useful to explain language specific features. Nonetheless, such discussions are interesting and would like to pursue them in a different form.
A separate document? (Shimono-san)
Contents
Concepts
Centered on reflow-able architecture. Layout happens on user’s devices. More proportional characters in a line.
Reasonable simplification
Provide priority and defaults, but not in a definitive way. provide background information.
Bin-sensei sent it out earlier this year.
Japanese in internationalized system.
Explicitly list technologies assumed and other assumptions
Use them to make implementations easier
Restrict to ones that would be valid for a long time
Basic concepts on Japanese line layout, esp. baseline vs grid, how to fit it in the baseline system.
Fonts: how to combine Japanese fonts with other languages. regional glyph variants, etc. in an internationalized system.
Accessibility: + possible consideration for universal access will be addressed in each feature
Input system: they can play a role in improving the layout, especially by helping users to use appropriate punctuations
Can we add knowledge from other than books, e.g. graphics design, magazines, etc.
General agreement to the direction. Kida to draft the table of contents.
add which part is completely new, and which part has something it can base on (Kobayashi-san)
Please add an English version and check it in under /docs/ (Shimono-san)

TODO
Kida to draft a table of contents.
Nat to write up something in regard to the beauty of the Japanese page layout, in a way people can apply them on digital media.

The next meeting will be on 9/28 Tues, 10:00. Will review the table of contents.