# [I18N ITS] Teleconference Minutes 2007-03-21

... are at http://www.w3.org/2007/03/21-i18nits-minutes and below as text.

Felix

   [1]W3C

      [1] http://www.w3.org/

                        i18n ITS Working Group

21 Mar 2007

   [2]Agenda

      [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2007JanMar/0139.html

   See also: [3]IRC log

      [3] http://www.w3.org/2007/03/21-i18nits-irc

Attendees

   Present
          Christian, Felix, Jirka, Sebastian, Yves

   Regrets
   Chair
          Yves

   Scribe
          Felix

Contents

     * [4]Topics
         1. [5]action items
         2. [6]Proposed Recommendation
         3. [7]vote on going to rec
         4. [8]Best Practices Working Draft
         5. [9]Next face-to-face meeting
         6. [10]Other business
     * [11]Summary of Action Items
     _________________________________________________________

action items

   <scribe> ACTION: Everybody to provide information about
   presentations on ITS (ONGOING) [recorded in
   [12]http://www.w3.org/2007/03/21-i18nits-minutes.html#action01]

     [12] http://www.w3.org/2007/03/21-i18nits-minutes.html#action01

   Yves: if you have anything that is public, send me the material and
   we will build that page

   <scribe> ACTION: Felix to check how to make testimonies for the
   press release (DONE) [recorded in
   [13]http://www.w3.org/2007/03/21-i18nits-minutes.html#action02]

     [13] http://www.w3.org/2007/03/21-i18nits-minutes.html#action02

   Felix probably no testimonies but "only" a press release

   <scribe> ACTION: Yves to post a note about break next week (DONE)
   [recorded in
   [14]http://www.w3.org/2007/03/21-i18nits-minutes.html#action03]

     [14] http://www.w3.org/2007/03/21-i18nits-minutes.html#action03

Proposed Recommendation

   comments at
   [15]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2007JanMar/0
   138.html

     [15] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2007JanMar/0138.html

   changes at
   [16]http://www.w3.org/International/its/itstagset/itstagset.html

     [16] http://www.w3.org/International/its/itstagset/itstagset.html

   Sebastian: the change about the loanword is interesting
   ... working around it by not using loan words is fine, but the
   problem might not be solved

   Yves: depends on the approach you take with loan words

   Sebastian: in practice you would make a decision with some ITS
   markup to put around such words
   ... you could add translation information and a note

   Yves: yes. It has also to do with the process you are applying

   Sebastian: would be good to have such an example with loan word
   problems

   Felix: we can have it in the BP document, that would also be fine
   with the commentor

   <scribe> ACTION: Yves and Felix to create an example related to loan
   words for the BP document [recorded in
   [17]http://www.w3.org/2007/03/21-i18nits-minutes.html#action04]

     [17] http://www.w3.org/2007/03/21-i18nits-minutes.html#action04

   Yves: it is important to point out the type of process you are doing
   ... everybody fine with the new examples in the tagset draft?
   ... over changes were typo corrections etc.

   Felix: styling problem in examples is fixed as well

   Sebastian: back to the new examples: if you put in some English
   names into the directories?

   \Zebulon\src\bin

   <rahtz> \Zebulon\Current Source\binatryu

   <rahtz> binary

   \Zebulon\Current Source\binary

   <rahtz> cmd -> Build.bat

   instead of ReBuildAll.bat

   Felix: agreement on \Zebulon\Current Source\binary and Build.bat ,
   I'm making the changes on the fly

   <YvesS> example theterm element

vote on going to rec

   Yves: everybody fine with the changes and publishing as it is?

   Felix: agree

   Sebastian: agree

   Jirka: agree

   Christian: agree

   Yves: agree

   RESOLUTION: WG agrees to vote for transition to REC

Best Practices Working Draft

   [18]http://www.w3.org/International/its/techniques/its-techniques.ht
   ml

     [18] http://www.w3.org/International/its/techniques/its-techniques.html

   <YvesS>
   [19]http://www.w3.org/International/its/techniques/its-techniques.ht
   ml#AuthLang

     [19] http://www.w3.org/International/its/techniques/its-techniques.html#AuthLang

   BP no 15

   Yves: Richard wanted to make sure that we talk about legacy data
   ... Martin said we should make clear that xml:lang is the thing to
   use

   <YvesS>
   [20]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007JanMar/0
   112.html

     [20] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007JanMar/0112.html

   (comments from Richard)

   Yves: we can change the language in the example

   Sebastian: you need a long example to justify the sub language

   Yves: yes
   ... Richard talked also about voice browsers

   <rahtz>
   [21]http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_products/software_jaws.asp

     [21] http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_products/software_jaws.asp

   <rahtz> [22]http://www.w3.org/Voice/

     [22] http://www.w3.org/Voice/

   Yves: we can have the example of voice browsers, that's fine
   ... don't see a problem with his comments
   ... regarding the organization of the material: Richard proposed
   some alignment with GEO style
   ... not sure if that works with our document since the different
   parts are more connected, there are not just single "BP"
   ... we can try to restructure the sections which are nearly complete

   [23]http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/PR-mobile-bp-20061102/

     [23] http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/PR-mobile-bp-20061102/

   <chriLi> [24]http://www.w3.org/TR/mobile-bp

     [24] http://www.w3.org/TR/mobile-bp

   Christian: these are also examples of BP, we might look at them

   <scribe> ACTION: Yves to try a restructering of existing examples
   and how to put highlights and find a pattern [recorded in
   [25]http://www.w3.org/2007/03/21-i18nits-minutes.html#action05]

     [25] http://www.w3.org/2007/03/21-i18nits-minutes.html#action05

   <scribe> ACTION: Felix to find old discussion on MBWP structuring
   [recorded in
   [26]http://www.w3.org/2007/03/21-i18nits-minutes.html#action06]

     [26] http://www.w3.org/2007/03/21-i18nits-minutes.html#action06

Next face-to-face meeting

   Yves: meeting will be in Paris, 14-15 of May
   ... who will come?

   Yves, possibly Sebastian, Christian, Jirka, Felix

   Richard will come as well

   logistics page is at
   [27]http://www.w3.org/International/its/ftf-200705-Paris.html

     [27] http://www.w3.org/International/its/ftf-200705-Paris.html

Other business

   Yves: please be aware of time difference change next week for Europe

   Christian: liaison to XLIFF
   ... TC is struggling to have a ballot for an OASIS standard
   ... one interesting discussion: question whether XLIFF should be
   submitted to ISO

   Felix: have they thought of W3C?

   Christian: don't know
   ... not sure why we need an ISO standard

   Yves: MLIF is a maybe related effort from ISO

   see also
   [28]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2006Jul/att-0011/S
   ome_general_remarks_about_Timed_Text.pdf

     [28] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2006Jul/att-0011/Some_general_remarks_about_Timed_Text.pdf

Summary of Action Items

   [NEW] ACTION: Felix to find old discussion on MBWP structuring
   [recorded in
   [29]http://www.w3.org/2007/03/21-i18nits-minutes.html#action06]
   [NEW] ACTION: Yves and Felix to create an example related to loan
   words for the BP document [recorded in
   [30]http://www.w3.org/2007/03/21-i18nits-minutes.html#action04]
   [NEW] ACTION: Yves to try a restructering of existing examples and
   how to put highlights and find a pattern [recorded in
   [31]http://www.w3.org/2007/03/21-i18nits-minutes.html#action05]

     [29] http://www.w3.org/2007/03/21-i18nits-minutes.html#action06
     [30] http://www.w3.org/2007/03/21-i18nits-minutes.html#action04
     [31] http://www.w3.org/2007/03/21-i18nits-minutes.html#action05

   [PENDING] ACTION: Everybody to provide information about
   presentations on ITS [recorded in
   [32]http://www.w3.org/2007/03/21-i18nits-minutes.html#action01]

     [32] http://www.w3.org/2007/03/21-i18nits-minutes.html#action01

   [DONE] ACTION: Felix to check how to make testimonies for the press
   release [recorded in
   [33]http://www.w3.org/2007/03/21-i18nits-minutes.html#action02]
   [DONE] ACTION: Yves to post a note about break next week [recorded
   in [34]http://www.w3.org/2007/03/21-i18nits-minutes.html#action03]

     [33] http://www.w3.org/2007/03/21-i18nits-minutes.html#action02
     [34] http://www.w3.org/2007/03/21-i18nits-minutes.html#action03

   [End of minutes]
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