- From: Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org>
- Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 00:08:15 +0900
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... are at http://www.w3.org/2006/06/28-i18nits-minutes.html and below as text. - Felix [1]W3C [1] http://www.w3.org/ i18n ITS working group 28 Jun 2006 [2]Agenda [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2006AprJun/0152.html See also: [3]IRC log [3] http://www.w3.org/2006/06/28-i18nits-irc Attendees Present Christian, Felix, Goutam, Sebastian, Yves Regrets Andrzej, Diane, Najib Chair Yves Scribe Felix Contents * [4]Topics 1. [5]action items 2. [6]feedback on the ITS draft 3. [7]how to answer bugs 4. [8]feedback from Christian's people 5. [9]feedback in general 6. [10]Implementation 7. [11]test suite 8. [12]best practices doc 9. [13]other business 10. [14]presentations on ITS * [15]Summary of Action Items _________________________________________________________ action items <scribe> ACTION: Felix to change the assigned persons for the different bugs (DONE) [recorded in [16]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/28-i18nits-minutes.html#action01] <scribe> ACTION: Sebastian to think about a reply on the NS binding issue, bug 3319 (DONE) [recorded in [17]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/28-i18nits-minutes.html#action02] Sebastian: Werner excepts it, we are waiting for Michaels response <scribe> ACTION: Yves to get back to Kara for feedback (ONGOING) [recorded in [18]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/28-i18nits-minutes.html#action03] <scribe> ACTION: Yves to look into [19]http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3126 (PENDING) [recorded in [20]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/28-i18nits-minutes.html#action04] [19] http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3126 <scribe> ACTION: Andrzej and everybody who has time to look at OpenDocument for creating a section in the modularization (PENDING) [recorded in [21]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/28-i18nits-minutes.html#action05] <scribe> ACTION: Diane to look if there is any Boeing XML document type where ITS could be tried out (PENDING) [recorded in [22]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/28-i18nits-minutes.html#action06] <scribe> ACTION: Felix to check how to create path description with DOM (PENDING) [recorded in [23]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/28-i18nits-minutes.html#action07] <YvesS> [24]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2006AprJun/0 115.html [24] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2006AprJun/0115.html <scribe> ACTION: Sebastian and Yves to look at the namespace issue mentioned at [25]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2006AprJun/0 115.html (ONGOING) [recorded in [26]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/28-i18nits-minutes.html#action08] [25] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2006AprJun/0115.html Sebastian: looked at it today ... in my implementation, that is the only thing I have left to figure out <scribe> ACTION: Yves to get DocBook feedback from Norm (PENDING) [recorded in [27]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/28-i18nits-minutes.html#action09] feedback on the ITS draft Sebastian: the bug on the "translate" attribute [28]http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3408 ... we had it before, but maybe it does not matter [28] http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3408 Christian: We discussed this before, why did we stick with "translate"? Yves: Other vocabularies have the same name Sebastian: It would help if the reply could mention another vocabulary Yves: e.g. DITA ... I will write an answer in that sense how to answer bugs Yves: sometimes it requires some addition in the spec ... so we would give that as a note in the buglist Sebastian: Everybody from the group can give feedback, not only the owners Felix: everybody, please do so feedback from Christian's people Christian: one comment about unqiue identifiers: ... so far we have addressed them only in the best practices document ... the other point: about defaults: ... in e.g. XSLT, defaults are harmful ... that is the reason why one commenter would not work with defaults Sebastian: Did you mean not using inheritance? Christian: The person did not differentiate between inheritance and defaults Sebastian: we use XPath to have a rule-based system ... so there is nothing to do about it? Felix: ITS is similar to XQuery and XSLT - they apply XPath, in various ways ... Christian, will this be a last call comment? Christian: I will check <scribe> ACTION: Christian to check whether the inheritance / default comment should be a last call comment [recorded in [29]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/28-i18nits-minutes.html#action10] yves: about the unique ID stuff: we address it in the guidelines ... we don't have a way to associate an ID with the concept of an ID Felix: so similar to langPointer? Yves: might be useful. Not sure if we need it ... Christian? Christian: Not sure ... we said what we don't tackle this requirement Yves: I would drop that issue feedback in general Felix: I will make timelines for comments now and write answers Yves: will we have a report on the closed bugs? Felix: can be generated easily with XSLT, I will do that Implementation Yves: Felix, any changes? Felix: made a javascript visualization on top of my existing implementation ... still needs some changes Sebastian: Is there a default value for translatability? Felix: I think attributes "no", elements "yes" Yves: it is not in the spec yet <scribe> ACTION: Felix to draft a proposal about defaults for all data categories [recorded in [30]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/28-i18nits-minutes.html#action11] test suite Yves: no other news best practices doc Yves: any news? ... we got some change on the template from Richard, I used his new string.xml other business Christian: Report on presentation about ITS ... purpose was to gather feedback ... and to facilitate implementations ... I invited people with various backgrounds ... in the presentation, I introduced some of the basic concepts of our work ... I sketched some issue we encounter ... and the way ITS addresses the issues ... who has to say s.t. about content? what does she say? how is it said with ITS? ... the presentation was very well received ... as for conformance criteria, we have to see what parts of ITS will be implemented Yves: good ... will you have another session like that? Christian: as for follow-up sessions: ... after the last call comments have been answered: ... I have to talk to people who have sponsered the activity ... also related to the new charter we have to think about presentations on ITS yves: something on track? Christian: Nothing except what I mentioned before ... there is the magazin multilingual technology ... we published s.t. about lexical data and semantic web in the latest issue Yves: adjourned Summary of Action Items [NEW] ACTION: Christian to check whether the inheritance / default comment should be a last call comment [recorded in [31]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/28-i18nits-minutes.html#action10] [NEW] ACTION: Felix to draft a proposal about defaults for all data categories [recorded in [32]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/28-i18nits-minutes.html#action11] [PENDING] ACTION: Andrzej and everybody who has time to look at OpenDocument for creating a section in the modularization [recorded in [33]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/28-i18nits-minutes.html#action05] [PENDING] ACTION: Diane to look if there is any Boeing XML document type where ITS could be tried out [recorded in [34]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/28-i18nits-minutes.html#action06] [PENDING] ACTION: Felix to check how to create path description with DOM [recorded in [35]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/28-i18nits-minutes.html#action07] [PENDING] ACTION: Sebastian and Yves to look at the namespace issue mentioned at [36]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2006AprJun/0 115.html [recorded in [37]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/28-i18nits-minutes.html#action08] [PENDING] ACTION: Yves to get back to Kara for feedback [recorded in [38]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/28-i18nits-minutes.html#action03] [PENDING] ACTION: Yves to get DocBook feedback from Norm [recorded in [39]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/28-i18nits-minutes.html#action09] [PENDING] ACTION: Yves to look into [40]http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3126 recorded in [41]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/28-i18nits-minutes.html#action04] [36] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2006AprJun/0115.html [40] http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3126 [DONE] ACTION: Felix to change the assigned persons for the different bugs [recorded in [42]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/28-i18nits-minutes.html#action01] [DONE] ACTION: Sebastian to think about a reply on the NS binding issue, bug 3319 [recorded in [43]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/28-i18nits-minutes.html#action02] [End of minutes] _________________________________________________________ Minutes formatted by David Booth's [44]scribe.perl version 1.127 ([45]CVS log) $Date: 2006/06/28 15:03:00 $ [44] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm [45] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2002/scribe/
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