- From: Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org>
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[1]W3C
[1] http://www.w3.org/
i18n ITS working group
28 Jun 2006
[2]Agenda
[2]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2006AprJun/0152.html
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2006/06/28-i18nits-irc
Attendees
Present
Christian, Felix, Goutam, Sebastian, Yves
Regrets
Andrzej, Diane, Najib
Chair
Yves
Scribe
Felix
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]action items
2. [6]feedback on the ITS draft
3. [7]how to answer bugs
4. [8]feedback from Christian's people
5. [9]feedback in general
6. [10]Implementation
7. [11]test suite
8. [12]best practices doc
9. [13]other business
10. [14]presentations on ITS
* [15]Summary of Action Items
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action items
<scribe> ACTION: Felix to change the assigned persons for the
different bugs (DONE) [recorded in
[16]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/28-i18nits-minutes.html#action01]
<scribe> ACTION: Sebastian to think about a reply on the NS binding
issue, bug 3319 (DONE) [recorded in
[17]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/28-i18nits-minutes.html#action02]
Sebastian: Werner excepts it, we are waiting for Michaels response
<scribe> ACTION: Yves to get back to Kara for feedback (ONGOING)
[recorded in
[18]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/28-i18nits-minutes.html#action03]
<scribe> ACTION: Yves to look into
[19]http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3126 (PENDING)
[recorded in
[20]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/28-i18nits-minutes.html#action04]
[19] http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3126
<scribe> ACTION: Andrzej and everybody who has time to look at
OpenDocument for creating a section in the modularization (PENDING)
[recorded in
[21]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/28-i18nits-minutes.html#action05]
<scribe> ACTION: Diane to look if there is any Boeing XML document
type where ITS could be tried out (PENDING) [recorded in
[22]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/28-i18nits-minutes.html#action06]
<scribe> ACTION: Felix to check how to create path description with
DOM (PENDING) [recorded in
[23]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/28-i18nits-minutes.html#action07]
<YvesS>
[24]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2006AprJun/0
115.html
[24]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2006AprJun/0115.html
<scribe> ACTION: Sebastian and Yves to look at the namespace issue
mentioned at
[25]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2006AprJun/0
115.html (ONGOING) [recorded in
[26]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/28-i18nits-minutes.html#action08]
[25]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2006AprJun/0115.html
Sebastian: looked at it today
... in my implementation, that is the only thing I have left to
figure out
<scribe> ACTION: Yves to get DocBook feedback from Norm (PENDING)
[recorded in
[27]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/28-i18nits-minutes.html#action09]
feedback on the ITS draft
Sebastian: the bug on the "translate" attribute
[28]http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3408
... we had it before, but maybe it does not matter
[28] http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3408
Christian: We discussed this before, why did we stick with
"translate"?
Yves: Other vocabularies have the same name
Sebastian: It would help if the reply could mention another
vocabulary
Yves: e.g. DITA
... I will write an answer in that sense
how to answer bugs
Yves: sometimes it requires some addition in the spec
... so we would give that as a note in the buglist
Sebastian: Everybody from the group can give feedback, not only the
owners
Felix: everybody, please do so
feedback from Christian's people
Christian: one comment about unqiue identifiers:
... so far we have addressed them only in the best practices
document
... the other point: about defaults:
... in e.g. XSLT, defaults are harmful
... that is the reason why one commenter would not work with
defaults
Sebastian: Did you mean not using inheritance?
Christian: The person did not differentiate between inheritance and
defaults
Sebastian: we use XPath to have a rule-based system
... so there is nothing to do about it?
Felix: ITS is similar to XQuery and XSLT - they apply XPath, in
various ways
... Christian, will this be a last call comment?
Christian: I will check
<scribe> ACTION: Christian to check whether the inheritance /
default comment should be a last call comment [recorded in
[29]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/28-i18nits-minutes.html#action10]
yves: about the unique ID stuff: we address it in the guidelines
... we don't have a way to associate an ID with the concept of an ID
Felix: so similar to langPointer?
Yves: might be useful. Not sure if we need it
... Christian?
Christian: Not sure
... we said what we don't tackle this requirement
Yves: I would drop that issue
feedback in general
Felix: I will make timelines for comments now and write answers
Yves: will we have a report on the closed bugs?
Felix: can be generated easily with XSLT, I will do that
Implementation
Yves: Felix, any changes?
Felix: made a javascript visualization on top of my existing
implementation
... still needs some changes
Sebastian: Is there a default value for translatability?
Felix: I think attributes "no", elements "yes"
Yves: it is not in the spec yet
<scribe> ACTION: Felix to draft a proposal about defaults for all
data categories [recorded in
[30]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/28-i18nits-minutes.html#action11]
test suite
Yves: no other news
best practices doc
Yves: any news?
... we got some change on the template from Richard, I used his new
string.xml
other business
Christian: Report on presentation about ITS
... purpose was to gather feedback
... and to facilitate implementations
... I invited people with various backgrounds
... in the presentation, I introduced some of the basic concepts of
our work
... I sketched some issue we encounter
... and the way ITS addresses the issues
... who has to say s.t. about content? what does she say? how is it
said with ITS?
... the presentation was very well received
... as for conformance criteria, we have to see what parts of ITS
will be implemented
Yves: good
... will you have another session like that?
Christian: as for follow-up sessions:
... after the last call comments have been answered:
... I have to talk to people who have sponsered the activity
... also related to the new charter we have to think about
presentations on ITS
yves: something on track?
Christian: Nothing except what I mentioned before
... there is the magazin multilingual technology
... we published s.t. about lexical data and semantic web in the
latest issue
Yves: adjourned
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: Christian to check whether the inheritance / default
comment should be a last call comment [recorded in
[31]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/28-i18nits-minutes.html#action10]
[NEW] ACTION: Felix to draft a proposal about defaults for all data
categories [recorded in
[32]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/28-i18nits-minutes.html#action11]
[PENDING] ACTION: Andrzej and everybody who has time to look at
OpenDocument for creating a section in the modularization [recorded
in [33]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/28-i18nits-minutes.html#action05]
[PENDING] ACTION: Diane to look if there is any Boeing XML document
type where ITS could be tried out [recorded in
[34]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/28-i18nits-minutes.html#action06]
[PENDING] ACTION: Felix to check how to create path description with
DOM [recorded in
[35]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/28-i18nits-minutes.html#action07]
[PENDING] ACTION: Sebastian and Yves to look at the namespace issue
mentioned at
[36]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2006AprJun/0
115.html [recorded in
[37]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/28-i18nits-minutes.html#action08]
[PENDING] ACTION: Yves to get back to Kara for feedback [recorded in
[38]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/28-i18nits-minutes.html#action03]
[PENDING] ACTION: Yves to get DocBook feedback from Norm [recorded
in [39]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/28-i18nits-minutes.html#action09]
[PENDING] ACTION: Yves to look into
[40]http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3126 recorded in
[41]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/28-i18nits-minutes.html#action04]
[36]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2006AprJun/0115.html
[40] http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3126
[DONE] ACTION: Felix to change the assigned persons for the
different bugs [recorded in
[42]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/28-i18nits-minutes.html#action01]
[DONE] ACTION: Sebastian to think about a reply on the NS binding
issue, bug 3319 [recorded in
[43]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/28-i18nits-minutes.html#action02]
[End of minutes]
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