- From: Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org>
- Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 00:09:19 +0900
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- Felix
[1]W3C
[1] http://www.w3.org/
i18n ITS working group
21 Jun 2006
[2]Agenda
[2]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2006AprJun/0137.html
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2006/06/21-i18nits-irc
Attendees
Present
Christian, Felix, Goutam, Sebastian, Yves
Regrets
Andrzej, Diane, Najib
Chair
Yves
Scribe
Felix
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]action items
2. [6]Implementation/Test suite
3. [7]Best Practices
4. [8]Translating and the Computer 28 conference, other
conferences
* [9]Summary of Action Items
_________________________________________________________
action items
<scribe> ACTION: Felix to check how to create path description with
DOM (PENDING) [recorded in
[10]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/21-i18nits-minutes.html#action01]
Yves: did you see last weeks mail from Felix?
Sebastian: I looked at today's mail, that looked fine
Christian: Did not look at it, since I don't implement
Sebastian: The node description might be a problem
... i.e. the <output> element
... for debugging the difference is interesting, but besides that it
is fine
... if Felix carries on generating that, I will strip out the
attribute
Yves: I could do the same
Felix: how about a counter for each element?
Yves: for me the output of the selection would be easier to create
... Felix found some errors in the draft
Felix: also in the implementation
Yves: the last example had some problems
Felix: maybe because of my XSLT approach
Yves: So Sebastian and me will try to generate that output
<scribe> ACTION: Felix to write a summary on our position of the
XHTML modularization issue (DONE [recorded in
[11]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/21-i18nits-minutes.html#action02]
my first try
[12]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2006AprJun/0
126.html
[12]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2006AprJun/0126.html
Yves: comments?
Sebastian: Basic point is: XHTML Mod is only an example
... and Felix is saying that
Yves: So we wait for Steven's feedback
Christian: I would like to have another look before we send the mail
out
Felix: o.k., I'll wait
<YvesS>
[13]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2006AprJun/0
115.html
[13]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2006AprJun/0115.html
<scribe> ACTION: Sebastian and Yves to look at the namespace issue
mentioned at
[14]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2006AprJun/0
115.html (PENDING) [recorded in
[15]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/21-i18nits-minutes.html#action03]
[14]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2006AprJun/0115.html
Sebastian: We took the namespace of to allow ITS markup for the
rules file itself
Yves: we also had an external comment
Felix: would it be fine with your implementations?
Sebastian: is maybe a problem
<scribe> ACTION: Yves to put a paragraph at the top of the document
which explains the numbering of examples (DONE) [recorded in
[16]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/21-i18nits-minutes.html#action04]
<YvesS>
[17]http://www.w3.org/International/its/techniques/its-techniques.ht
ml#Modularization
[17]
http://www.w3.org/International/its/techniques/its-techniques.html#Modularization
<scribe> ACTION: Yves to write a mail to calreq(?) about our f2f and
set up a HP (DONE) [recorded in
[18]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/21-i18nits-minutes.html#action05]
Yves: posted also the f2f HP
<scribe> ACTION: All to try out the "translate" test case to achieve
compatibility of output For implementations (DONE) [recorded in
[19]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/21-i18nits-minutes.html#action06]
<scribe> ACTION: Andrzej and everybody who has time to look at
OpenDocument for creating a section in the modularization (PENDING)
[recorded in
[20]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/21-i18nits-minutes.html#action07]
<scribe> ACTION: Diane to look if there is any Boeing XML document
type where ITS could be tried out (PENDING) [recorded in
[21]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/21-i18nits-minutes.html#action08]
<scribe> ACTION: Felix (maybe Richard) to contact STC people about
editing the best practices draft (DONE) [recorded in
[22]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/21-i18nits-minutes.html#action09]
<scribe> ACTION: Yves to get DocBook feedback from Norm (PENDING)
[recorded in
[23]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/21-i18nits-minutes.html#action10]
<YvesS> [24]http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?&product=ITS
[24] http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?&product=ITS
<fsasak> Christian: Some problematic issues?
<fsasak> Yves: something about the inheritance
<fsasak> .. but Sebastian said that is just life
<fsasak> Sebastian: what to do about the NS issue?
<fsasak> [25]http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3319
[25] http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3319
<fsasak> ACTION: Sebastian to think about a reply on the NS binding
issue, bug 3319 [recorded in
[26]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/21-i18nits-minutes.html#action11]
<scribe> ACTION: Yves to get back to Kara for feedback [recorded in
[27]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/21-i18nits-minutes.html#action12]
Felix: how about
[28]http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3126 ? Christian,
can we leave last call without implementing this?
[28] http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3126
Christian: It is very important.
Yves: we have to discuss it before last call leaving
... last time we thought of changing the translate data category
... but maybe we need a new data category
<scribe> ACTION: Yves to look into
[29]http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3126 recorded in
[30]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/21-i18nits-minutes.html#action13]
[29] http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3126
Felix: about general strategy for the future: should we do test
suite work and replying to comments together?
Yves: both are important
Sebastian: If it is about prose, we can make a fast change, but
things like the NS one effect the implementations
<YvesS> [31]http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?&product=ITS
[31] http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?&product=ITS
Sebastian: Felix, could you change on the assigned persons?
<scribe> ACTION: Felix to change the assigned persons for the
different bugs [recorded in
[32]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/21-i18nits-minutes.html#action14]
Implementation/Test suite
Sebastian: Have you used other data categories than translatability?
Felix: locInfo, terminology, directionality, but not all examples
Best Practices
Yves: Martin send some feedback
Felix: I made some changes to the CSS etc.
Yves: it looks better now
... I have made some changes
... to address Richard's concerns
... I got some feedback from DITA people
... I started to work on generic techniques
... I also worked on ITS and DITA
... I am still struggling with ITS and the DITA DTD
<YvesS>
[33]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2006AprJun/0
135.html
[33]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2006AprJun/0135.html
Translating and the Computer 28 conference, other conferences
Yves: if somebody wants to go, it might be good
... btw., I made a submission for localization world about ITS
Christian: I asked people from the OASIS standards day about our
submisson
... we have to wait until the end of July
... Felix, the presentations for XTech and Extreme Markup Languages,
could I get them?
XTech link [34]http://www.w3.org/2006/Talks/0518-xtech-its/
[34] http://www.w3.org/2006/Talks/0518-xtech-its/
Extreme Presentation link
[35]http://www.w3.org/People/fsasaki/its-eml05
[35] http://www.w3.org/People/fsasaki/its-eml05
Yves: I look for other stuff
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: Felix to change the assigned persons for the different
bugs [recorded in
[36]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/21-i18nits-minutes.html#action14]
[NEW] ACTION: Sebastian to think about a reply on the NS binding
issue, bug 3319 [recorded in
[37]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/21-i18nits-minutes.html#action11]
[NEW] ACTION: Yves to get back to Kara for feedback [recorded in
[38]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/21-i18nits-minutes.html#action12]
[NEW] ACTION: Yves to look into
[39]http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3126 recorded in
[40]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/21-i18nits-minutes.html#action13]
[39] http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3126
[PENDING] ACTION: Andrzej and everybody who has time to look at
OpenDocument for creating a section in the modularization [recorded
in [41]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/21-i18nits-minutes.html#action07]
[PENDING] ACTION: Diane to look if there is any Boeing XML document
type where ITS could be tried out [recorded in
[42]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/21-i18nits-minutes.html#action08]
[PENDING] ACTION: Felix to check how to create path description with
DOM [recorded in
[43]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/21-i18nits-minutes.html#action01]
[PENDING] ACTION: Sebastian and Yves to look at the namespace issue
mentioned at
[44]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2006AprJun/0
115.html [recorded in
[45]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/21-i18nits-minutes.html#action03]
[PENDING] ACTION: Yves to get DocBook feedback from Norm [recorded
in [46]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/21-i18nits-minutes.html#action10]
[44]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2006AprJun/0115.html
[DONE] ACTION: All to try out the "translate" test case to achieve
compatibility of output For implementations [recorded in
[47]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/21-i18nits-minutes.html#action06]
[DONE] ACTION: Felix (maybe Richard) to contact STC people about
editing the best practices draft [recorded in
[48]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/21-i18nits-minutes.html#action09]
[DONE] ACTION: Felix to write a summary on our position of the XHTML
modularization issue [recorded in
[49]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/21-i18nits-minutes.html#action02]
[DONE] ACTION: Yves to put a paragraph at the top of the document
which explains the numbering of examples [recorded in
[50]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/21-i18nits-minutes.html#action04]
[DONE] ACTION: Yves to write a mail to calreq(?) about our f2f and
set up a HP [recorded in
[51]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/21-i18nits-minutes.html#action05]
[End of minutes]
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