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[1]W3C
[1] http://www.w3.org/
i18n ITS working group
14 Jun 2006
[2]Agenda
[2]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2006AprJun/0120.html
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2006/06/14-i18nits-irc
Attendees
Present
Diane, Felix, Goutam, Yves
Regrets
Andrzej, Christian, Sebastian
Chair
Yves
Scribe
Felix
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]action items
2. [6]Implementation/Test suite
3. [7]Feedback from DITA
4. [8]LISA Terminology SIG feedback
5. [9]XHTML modularization
6. [10]f2f meeting
7. [11]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/20
06AprJun/0077.html
* [12]Summary of Action Items
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action items
<scribe> ACTION: Felix (maybe Richard) to contact STC people about
editing the best practices draft (ONGOING) [recorded in
[13]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/14-i18nits-minutes.html#action01]
Felix: Richard and me send a mail, no reply yet
<scribe> ACTION: Felix to look into the techniques XSLT templates
for numbering (DROPPED) [recorded in
[14]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/14-i18nits-minutes.html#action02]
Felix: Richard said he would prefer the old way of numbering
<scribe> ACTION: Yves to put a paragraph at the top of the document
which explains the numbering of examples [recorded in
[15]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/14-i18nits-minutes.html#action03]
<scribe> ACTION: All to try out the "translate" test case to achieve
compatibility of output For implementations. (ONGOING) [recorded in
[16]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/14-i18nits-minutes.html#action04]
<scribe> ACTION: Andrzej and everybody who has time to look at
OpenDocument for creating a section in the modularization (PENDING)
[recorded in
[17]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/14-i18nits-minutes.html#action05]
<scribe> ACTION: Diane to look if there is any Boeing XML document
type where ITS could be tried out. (ONGOING) [recorded in
[18]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/14-i18nits-minutes.html#action06]
Yves: Diane send a file, we had some conversation on that
<scribe> ACTION: Yves to get DocBook feedback from Norm. (PENDING)
[recorded in
[19]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/14-i18nits-minutes.html#action07]
Yves: I will make s.t. Norm can look at for DocBook
Implementation/Test suite
<YvesS>
[20]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2006AprJun/0
115.html
[20]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2006AprJun/0115.html
(input from Felix)
Yves describes the mail
Felix: two parts are here: generalization of the data category,
versus a format for the test suite
Yves: should we have this in the spec?
Felix: better not, it is somehow specific to my XSLT implementation
Yves: how about the issue with the langPointer value?
Felix: we have not made in the spec explicit that the value of
pointer attributes is not part of the ouput
Discussion; Felix is convinced that the pointer attribute is no
issue
Yves: as for locInfoRef, some people might expect the resolved URI
Felix: that would not work with the current mechanism
... ITS information is only about information attached to nodes
Yves: another issue is the namespace-less on global rules
<scribe> ACTION: Sebastian to look at the namespace issue mentioned
at
[21]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2006AprJun/0
115.html [recorded in
[22]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/14-i18nits-minutes.html#action08]
[21]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2006AprJun/0115.html
yves: as the output format concerns: it looks nice
... but it is hard to create the path description
... is there a function to do that in the DOM?
<YvesS> [23]http://www.w3.org/International/its/tests/dc-result1.xml
[23] http://www.w3.org/International/its/tests/dc-result1.xml
Felix: don't know, have a look
<scribe> ACTION: Felix to check how to create path description with
DOM [recorded in
[24]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/14-i18nits-minutes.html#action09]
Yves: maybe that is too much information?
felix: yes, not necessary for the conformance testing
... the same as the outputType information
Feedback from DITA
Yves: we got very basic feedback, mostly regarding terminology
... I guess they will not give us more feedback
... the next step for them was to see if I would add ITS information
to DITA
... the DITA schema(s) are very complex
Felix: DITA will not support many ITS stuff natively
Yves: that's maybe not necessary
Felix: I am wondering if they appreciate the general ITS mechanisms
Yves: maybe via locInfo
Felix: maybe the ITS mechanisms are just good :)
Yves: I see an issue with directionality
Felix: a general problem with user agent oriented, interactive stuff
Yves: so more relevant for content authoring people
... e.g. open office developers
LISA Terminology SIG feedback
Yves: maybe they are not aware of the LC deadline, or don't care
... next week, we will push them again
XHTML modularization
yves: it might not work for other formats as well
felix: currently we rely on ODD
yves: could we not do the modularization manually?
... and give an example in the techniques?
felix: good idea
yves: XHTML modularization is still a WD
felix: would not be an issue if we make only a non-normative example
yves: so in the techniques
... they can use it, if they want to, but not normative
<scribe> ACTION: Felix to write a summary on our position of the
XHTML modularization issue [recorded in
[25]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/14-i18nits-minutes.html#action10]
f2f meeting
yves: we stick with what we say last time at
[26]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/07-i18nits-minutes.html#item05 ?
[26] http://www.w3.org/2006/06/07-i18nits-minutes.html#item05
felix: yes
yves: so 6,7 and 8 of September
<scribe> ACTION: Yves to write a mail to calreq(?) about our f2f and
set up a HP [recorded in
[27]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/14-i18nits-minutes.html#action11]
[28]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2006AprJun/007
7.html
[28]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2006AprJun/0077.html
issue on propagation of language information or e.g. transtability
information
yves: I could start a section on that in the techniques
<GoutamSaha> Good Night, Felix, Yves and Diane
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: Felix to check how to create path description with DOM
[recorded in
[29]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/14-i18nits-minutes.html#action09]
[NEW] ACTION: Felix to write a summary on our position of the XHTML
modularization issue [recorded in
[30]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/14-i18nits-minutes.html#action10]
[NEW] ACTION: Sebastian to look at the namespace issue mentioned at
[31]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2006AprJun/0
115.html [recorded in
[32]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/14-i18nits-minutes.html#action08]
[NEW] ACTION: Yves to put a paragraph at the top of the document
which explains the numbering of examples [recorded in
[33]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/14-i18nits-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: Yves to write a mail to calreq(?) about our f2f and
set up a HP [recorded in
[34]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/14-i18nits-minutes.html#action11]
[31]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2006AprJun/0115.html
[PENDING] ACTION: All to try out the "translate" test case to
achieve compatibility of output For implementations. [recorded in
[35]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/14-i18nits-minutes.html#action04]
[PENDING] ACTION: Andrzej and everybody who has time to look at
OpenDocument for creating a section in the modularization [recorded
in [36]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/14-i18nits-minutes.html#action05]
[PENDING] ACTION: Diane to look if there is any Boeing XML document
type where ITS could be tried out. [recorded in
[37]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/14-i18nits-minutes.html#action06]
[PENDING] ACTION: Felix (maybe Richard) to contact STC people about
editing the best practices draft [recorded in
[38]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/14-i18nits-minutes.html#action01]
[PENDING] ACTION: Yves to get DocBook feedback from Norm. [recorded
in [39]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/14-i18nits-minutes.html#action07]
[DROPPED] ACTION: Felix to look into the techniques XSLT templates
for numbering [recorded in
[40]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/14-i18nits-minutes.html#action02] End
of minutes]
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