- From: Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org>
- Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 01:07:31 +0900
- To: public-i18n-its@w3.org
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... are at http://www.w3.org/2006/05/10-i18nits-minutes.html and below as text. Regards, Felix. [1]W3C [1] http://www.w3.org/ i18n ITS working group 10 May 2006 [2]Agenda [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2006AprJun/0064.html See also: [3]IRC log [3] http://www.w3.org/2006/05/10-i18nits-irc Attendees Present Christian, Diane, Felix, Sebastian, Yves Regrets Richard, Andrzej Chair Yves Scribe Felix Contents * [4]Topics 1. [5]action items 2. [6]having not more than one rules element per document 3. [7]last call decision 4. [8]requirements document and best practices document 5. [9]next call 6. [10]discussion on "more than one rules element" (with christian) * [11]Summary of Action Items _________________________________________________________ action items <scribe> ACTION: all to review the xs:annotation elements in [12]http://www.w3.org/International/its/itstagset/its.xsd (ONGOING) [recorded in [13]http://www.w3.org/2006/05/10-i18nits-minutes.html#action01] [12] http://www.w3.org/International/its/itstagset/its.xsd <scribe> ACTION: Felix (possibly others) to look on the issue of xml:base, see [14]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2006AprJun/0 156.html (DONE) [recorded in [15]http://www.w3.org/2006/05/10-i18nits-minutes.html#action02] [14] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2006AprJun/0156.html yves: xml:base is covered by xlink, so we don't need a direct reference ... does xml:base look like xml:lang? felix: very similar sebastian: TEI does not use xml:base either <scribe> ACTION: Felix to add time stamps to the examples in the specification (ONGOING) [recorded in [16]http://www.w3.org/2006/05/10-i18nits-minutes.html#action03] sebastian: timestamps are just for internal use, not for the final document <scribe> ACTION: Yves to post a mail with the proposal at [17]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2006AprJun/0 156.html (DONE) [recorded in [18]http://www.w3.org/2006/05/10-i18nits-minutes.html#action04] [17] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2006AprJun/0156.html yves: everybody fine with the new title, so we use it. <scribe> ACTION: Yves to post his thoughts on Jerry's comments on the member list. (DONE) [recorded in [19]http://www.w3.org/2006/05/10-i18nits-minutes.html#action05] <scribe> ACTION: Yves to post a mail with the proposal at [20]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2006AprJun/0 156.html (DONE) [recorded in [21]http://www.w3.org/2006/05/10-i18nits-minutes.html#action06] [20] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2006AprJun/0156.html yves: felix started implementing that in the tagset draft ... as for Jerry's comment and my reply, any opinions? ... the only change I would make: the terminology for the "translate" attribute ... it is more than "translatable" rather than "translate" felix: how about the terminology "localizability" yves: if it could do s.t. against the concerns of Jerry or others sebastian: jerry wants better semantics for the markup, but that's hard to achieve ... ITS is s.t. not for typical authors, rather for technical people <scribe> ACTION: yves to send the reply to Jerry's comment [recorded in [22]http://www.w3.org/2006/05/10-i18nits-minutes.html#action07] <scribe> ACTION: All to try out the "translate" test case to achieve compatibility of output (PENDING) [recorded in [23]http://www.w3.org/2006/05/10-i18nits-minutes.html#action08] <scribe> ACTION: Christian and Felix to finish the text for the inclusion issue (DONE) [recorded in [24]http://www.w3.org/2006/05/10-i18nits-minutes.html#action09] <scribe> ACTION: Felix to check how license should be handled in the schema. (PENDING) [recorded in [25]http://www.w3.org/2006/05/10-i18nits-minutes.html#action10] felix: I contacted some people, no reply yet <scribe> ACTION: Sebastian and Yves to work on integration of modularization section into best practices document (DONE) [recorded in [26]http://www.w3.org/2006/05/10-i18nits-minutes.html#action11] yves: felix wanted to have docbook as a modularization as well. The "within text" is not finished yet ... it is very hard to do for docbook sebastian: just say that these examples are illustrations <scribe> ACTION: felix to add a sentence on "these examples are illustrative" to the modularization section [recorded in [27]http://www.w3.org/2006/05/10-i18nits-minutes.html#action12] yves: I'll send felix the HTML file of docbook <scribe> ACTION: Sebastian to get rid of "empties" from generated schema (DONE) [recorded in [28]http://www.w3.org/2006/05/10-i18nits-minutes.html#action13] having not more than one rules element per document felix: is that constraint necessary? sebastian: you may have several rules elements per document, for embedding ... there is a lack of parallelism: you can have several rules with pointing, but not with adding in one doc yves: we had a problem with the version conflicts sebastian: you could say if you have element that must not have different versions ... felix could change the text like that yves: any other problems? felix: the precedence between rules? yves: can be solved by merging them in document order felix: paragraph about rules: [29]http://www.w3.org/International/its/itstagset/itstagset-diff-200 60414.html#selection-global [29] http://www.w3.org/International/its/itstagset/itstagset-diff-20060414.html#selection-global sebastian: felix, make sure that the URI for the BP document is the right one felix: will do yves: as fur the rules: everybody o.k. to allow them? <scribe> ACTION: sebastian to make a reword of the paragraph on the change of the "not more than one rules element" requirement [recorded in [30]http://www.w3.org/2006/05/10-i18nits-minutes.html#action14] last call decision yves: we have to decide this week ... everybody fine with that? ... people who don't agree should write a mail until Friday requirements document and best practices document <YvesS> [31]http://www.w3.org/International/its/requirements/Overview.html [31] http://www.w3.org/International/its/requirements/Overview.html <YvesS> [32]http://www.w3.org/International/its/techniques/its-techniques.ht ml [32] http://www.w3.org/International/its/techniques/its-techniques.html yves: both documents are not last call docs ... if you have problems, please mention that before Friday felix: we need a transition request for the "best practices" doc, could you send a mail to the list? yves: will do next call yves: next week, same time ... regrets from sebastian and felix christian? could you call in? discussion on "more than one rules element" (with christian) yves summarizes the discussion christian: when would you have one than more rules element? yves: if you want to split them in various parts, or have inclusion (or not) christian: great sebastian's text proposal: "If there is more than one <rules> element in an XML document, the rules from each section are to be processed at the same precedence level. The <rules> sections are to be read in document order, and the ITS rules with them processed sequentially." felix: we need the text on "there MUST be the same version" christian: fine with that Summary of Action Items [NEW] ACTION: felix to add a sentence on "these examples are illustrative" to the modularization section [recorded in [33]http://www.w3.org/2006/05/10-i18nits-minutes.html#action12] [NEW] ACTION: sebastian to make a reword of the paragraph on the change of the "not more than one rules element" requirement [recorded in [34]http://www.w3.org/2006/05/10-i18nits-minutes.html#action14] [NEW] ACTION: yves to send the reply to Jerry's comment [recorded in [35]http://www.w3.org/2006/05/10-i18nits-minutes.html#action07] [PENDING] ACTION: all to review the xs:annotation elements in [36]http://www.w3.org/International/its/itstagset/its.xsd recorded in [37]http://www.w3.org/2006/05/10-i18nits-minutes.html#action01] [PENDING] ACTION: All to try out the "translate" test case to achieve compatibility of output [recorded in [38]http://www.w3.org/2006/05/10-i18nits-minutes.html#action08] [PENDING] ACTION: Felix to add time stamps to the examples in the specification [recorded in [39]http://www.w3.org/2006/05/10-i18nits-minutes.html#action03] [PENDING] ACTION: Felix to check how license should be handled in the schema. [recorded in [40]http://www.w3.org/2006/05/10-i18nits-minutes.html#action10] [36] http://www.w3.org/International/its/itstagset/its.xsd [DONE] ACTION: Christian and Felix to finish the text for the inclusion issue [recorded in [41]http://www.w3.org/2006/05/10-i18nits-minutes.html#action09] [DONE] ACTION: Felix (possibly others) to look on the issue of xml:base, see [42]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2006AprJun/0 156.html [recorded in [43]http://www.w3.org/2006/05/10-i18nits-minutes.html#action02] [DONE] ACTION: Sebastian and Yves to work on integration of modularization section into best practices document [recorded in [44]http://www.w3.org/2006/05/10-i18nits-minutes.html#action11] [DONE] ACTION: Sebastian to get rid of "empties" from generated schema [recorded in [45]http://www.w3.org/2006/05/10-i18nits-minutes.html#action13] [DONE] ACTION: Yves to post a mail with the proposal at [46]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2006AprJun/0 156.html [recorded in [47]http://www.w3.org/2006/05/10-i18nits-minutes.html#action04] [DONE] ACTION: Yves to post a mail with the proposal at [48]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2006AprJun/0 156.html [recorded in [49]http://www.w3.org/2006/05/10-i18nits-minutes.html#action06] [DONE] ACTION: Yves to post his thoughts on Jerry's comments on the member list. [recorded in [50]http://www.w3.org/2006/05/10-i18nits-minutes.html#action05] [42] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2006AprJun/0156.html [46] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2006AprJun/0156.html [48] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2006AprJun/0156.html [End of minutes] _________________________________________________________ Minutes formatted by David Booth's [51]scribe.perl version 1.127 ([52]CVS log) $Date: 2006/05/10 16:06:00 $ [51] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm [52] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2002/scribe/
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