- From: Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org>
- Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 01:07:31 +0900
- To: public-i18n-its@w3.org
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... are at http://www.w3.org/2006/05/10-i18nits-minutes.html
and below as text.
Regards, Felix.
[1]W3C
[1] http://www.w3.org/
i18n ITS working group
10 May 2006
[2]Agenda
[2]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2006AprJun/0064.html
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2006/05/10-i18nits-irc
Attendees
Present
Christian, Diane, Felix, Sebastian, Yves
Regrets
Richard, Andrzej
Chair
Yves
Scribe
Felix
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]action items
2. [6]having not more than one rules element per document
3. [7]last call decision
4. [8]requirements document and best practices document
5. [9]next call
6. [10]discussion on "more than one rules element" (with
christian)
* [11]Summary of Action Items
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action items
<scribe> ACTION: all to review the xs:annotation elements in
[12]http://www.w3.org/International/its/itstagset/its.xsd (ONGOING)
[recorded in
[13]http://www.w3.org/2006/05/10-i18nits-minutes.html#action01]
[12] http://www.w3.org/International/its/itstagset/its.xsd
<scribe> ACTION: Felix (possibly others) to look on the issue of
xml:base, see
[14]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2006AprJun/0
156.html (DONE) [recorded in
[15]http://www.w3.org/2006/05/10-i18nits-minutes.html#action02]
[14]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2006AprJun/0156.html
yves: xml:base is covered by xlink, so we don't need a direct
reference
... does xml:base look like xml:lang?
felix: very similar
sebastian: TEI does not use xml:base either
<scribe> ACTION: Felix to add time stamps to the examples in the
specification (ONGOING) [recorded in
[16]http://www.w3.org/2006/05/10-i18nits-minutes.html#action03]
sebastian: timestamps are just for internal use, not for the final
document
<scribe> ACTION: Yves to post a mail with the proposal at
[17]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2006AprJun/0
156.html (DONE) [recorded in
[18]http://www.w3.org/2006/05/10-i18nits-minutes.html#action04]
[17]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2006AprJun/0156.html
yves: everybody fine with the new title, so we use it.
<scribe> ACTION: Yves to post his thoughts on Jerry's comments on
the member list. (DONE) [recorded in
[19]http://www.w3.org/2006/05/10-i18nits-minutes.html#action05]
<scribe> ACTION: Yves to post a mail with the proposal at
[20]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2006AprJun/0
156.html (DONE) [recorded in
[21]http://www.w3.org/2006/05/10-i18nits-minutes.html#action06]
[20]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2006AprJun/0156.html
yves: felix started implementing that in the tagset draft
... as for Jerry's comment and my reply, any opinions?
... the only change I would make: the terminology for the
"translate" attribute
... it is more than "translatable" rather than "translate"
felix: how about the terminology "localizability"
yves: if it could do s.t. against the concerns of Jerry or others
sebastian: jerry wants better semantics for the markup, but that's
hard to achieve
... ITS is s.t. not for typical authors, rather for technical people
<scribe> ACTION: yves to send the reply to Jerry's comment [recorded
in [22]http://www.w3.org/2006/05/10-i18nits-minutes.html#action07]
<scribe> ACTION: All to try out the "translate" test case to achieve
compatibility of output (PENDING) [recorded in
[23]http://www.w3.org/2006/05/10-i18nits-minutes.html#action08]
<scribe> ACTION: Christian and Felix to finish the text for the
inclusion issue (DONE) [recorded in
[24]http://www.w3.org/2006/05/10-i18nits-minutes.html#action09]
<scribe> ACTION: Felix to check how license should be handled in the
schema. (PENDING) [recorded in
[25]http://www.w3.org/2006/05/10-i18nits-minutes.html#action10]
felix: I contacted some people, no reply yet
<scribe> ACTION: Sebastian and Yves to work on integration of
modularization section into best practices document (DONE) [recorded
in [26]http://www.w3.org/2006/05/10-i18nits-minutes.html#action11]
yves: felix wanted to have docbook as a modularization as well. The
"within text" is not finished yet
... it is very hard to do for docbook
sebastian: just say that these examples are illustrations
<scribe> ACTION: felix to add a sentence on "these examples are
illustrative" to the modularization section [recorded in
[27]http://www.w3.org/2006/05/10-i18nits-minutes.html#action12]
yves: I'll send felix the HTML file of docbook
<scribe> ACTION: Sebastian to get rid of "empties" from generated
schema (DONE) [recorded in
[28]http://www.w3.org/2006/05/10-i18nits-minutes.html#action13]
having not more than one rules element per document
felix: is that constraint necessary?
sebastian: you may have several rules elements per document, for
embedding
... there is a lack of parallelism: you can have several rules with
pointing, but not with adding in one doc
yves: we had a problem with the version conflicts
sebastian: you could say if you have element that must not have
different versions
... felix could change the text like that
yves: any other problems?
felix: the precedence between rules?
yves: can be solved by merging them in document order
felix: paragraph about rules:
[29]http://www.w3.org/International/its/itstagset/itstagset-diff-200
60414.html#selection-global
[29]
http://www.w3.org/International/its/itstagset/itstagset-diff-20060414.html#selection-global
sebastian: felix, make sure that the URI for the BP document is the
right one
felix: will do
yves: as fur the rules: everybody o.k. to allow them?
<scribe> ACTION: sebastian to make a reword of the paragraph on the
change of the "not more than one rules element" requirement
[recorded in
[30]http://www.w3.org/2006/05/10-i18nits-minutes.html#action14]
last call decision
yves: we have to decide this week
... everybody fine with that?
... people who don't agree should write a mail until Friday
requirements document and best practices document
<YvesS>
[31]http://www.w3.org/International/its/requirements/Overview.html
[31] http://www.w3.org/International/its/requirements/Overview.html
<YvesS>
[32]http://www.w3.org/International/its/techniques/its-techniques.ht
ml
[32] http://www.w3.org/International/its/techniques/its-techniques.html
yves: both documents are not last call docs
... if you have problems, please mention that before Friday
felix: we need a transition request for the "best practices" doc,
could you send a mail to the list?
yves: will do
next call
yves: next week, same time
... regrets from sebastian and felix
christian? could you call in?
discussion on "more than one rules element" (with christian)
yves summarizes the discussion
christian: when would you have one than more rules element?
yves: if you want to split them in various parts, or have inclusion
(or not)
christian: great
sebastian's text proposal:
"If there is more than one <rules> element in an XML document,
the rules from each section are to be processed at the
same precedence level. The <rules> sections are to be read in
document
order, and the ITS rules with them processed sequentially."
felix: we need the text on "there MUST be the same version"
christian: fine with that
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: felix to add a sentence on "these examples are
illustrative" to the modularization section [recorded in
[33]http://www.w3.org/2006/05/10-i18nits-minutes.html#action12]
[NEW] ACTION: sebastian to make a reword of the paragraph on the
change of the "not more than one rules element" requirement
[recorded in
[34]http://www.w3.org/2006/05/10-i18nits-minutes.html#action14]
[NEW] ACTION: yves to send the reply to Jerry's comment [recorded in
[35]http://www.w3.org/2006/05/10-i18nits-minutes.html#action07]
[PENDING] ACTION: all to review the xs:annotation elements in
[36]http://www.w3.org/International/its/itstagset/its.xsd recorded
in [37]http://www.w3.org/2006/05/10-i18nits-minutes.html#action01]
[PENDING] ACTION: All to try out the "translate" test case to
achieve compatibility of output [recorded in
[38]http://www.w3.org/2006/05/10-i18nits-minutes.html#action08]
[PENDING] ACTION: Felix to add time stamps to the examples in the
specification [recorded in
[39]http://www.w3.org/2006/05/10-i18nits-minutes.html#action03]
[PENDING] ACTION: Felix to check how license should be handled in
the schema. [recorded in
[40]http://www.w3.org/2006/05/10-i18nits-minutes.html#action10]
[36] http://www.w3.org/International/its/itstagset/its.xsd
[DONE] ACTION: Christian and Felix to finish the text for the
inclusion issue [recorded in
[41]http://www.w3.org/2006/05/10-i18nits-minutes.html#action09]
[DONE] ACTION: Felix (possibly others) to look on the issue of
xml:base, see
[42]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2006AprJun/0
156.html [recorded in
[43]http://www.w3.org/2006/05/10-i18nits-minutes.html#action02]
[DONE] ACTION: Sebastian and Yves to work on integration of
modularization section into best practices document [recorded in
[44]http://www.w3.org/2006/05/10-i18nits-minutes.html#action11]
[DONE] ACTION: Sebastian to get rid of "empties" from generated
schema [recorded in
[45]http://www.w3.org/2006/05/10-i18nits-minutes.html#action13]
[DONE] ACTION: Yves to post a mail with the proposal at
[46]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2006AprJun/0
156.html [recorded in
[47]http://www.w3.org/2006/05/10-i18nits-minutes.html#action04]
[DONE] ACTION: Yves to post a mail with the proposal at
[48]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2006AprJun/0
156.html [recorded in
[49]http://www.w3.org/2006/05/10-i18nits-minutes.html#action06]
[DONE] ACTION: Yves to post his thoughts on Jerry's comments on the
member list. [recorded in
[50]http://www.w3.org/2006/05/10-i18nits-minutes.html#action05]
[42]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2006AprJun/0156.html
[46]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2006AprJun/0156.html
[48]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2006AprJun/0156.html
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