- From: Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org>
- Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 00:17:06 +0900
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- Felix
[1]W3C
[1] http://www.w3.org/
i18n ITS working group
5 Apr 2006
[2]Agenda
[2]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2006AprJun/0007.html
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2006/04/05-i18nits-irc
Attendees
Present
Christian, Diane, Felix, Yves
Regrets
Sebastian, Andrzej
Chair
Yves
Scribe
Felix
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]versioning
2. [6]Decide on term "localization properties"
3. [7]Decide on term "data category"
4. [8]conformance section
5. [9]further action items
6. [10]last call preparation
7. [11]topics for next week
8. [12]next face-to-face meeting (after Oxford)
9. [13]XTech paper
* [14]Summary of Action Items
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versioning
<YvesS> [15]http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=2876
[15] http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=2876
Yves: last summary was to have an its:version attribute, to put at
the top of the document
... Martin had some comments about the future version
Felix: would it be in the rules element as well?
Yves: if it is an external file which is not linked
... if it has a version, you take the rules from the top level
element in that file
... XSLT puts the version in the root element as well
Christian: I'd go for a version attribute both at the top of the doc
and the rules element
Felix: XSLT way:
[[[Definition: There are a number of standard attributes that may
appear on any XSLT element: specifically version,
exclude-result-prefixes, extension-element-prefixes,
xpath-default-namespace, default-collation, and use-when.]]]
Yves: rules can have their own version, they are prossed before the
other ones
Christian: We could say: If you include a rules element
... in your document, you could put the version identifier in the
rules element
... if you don't have a rules element, then put it on the top most
element of the host vocabulary
<chriLi> test
Yves: do we need that for version 1?
<chriLi> We don't want this, right? <foo
its:version="1.0"><its:documentRules
xmlns:its="[16]http://www.w3.org/2005/11/its" its:version="1.0">
[16] http://www.w3.org/2005/11/its
Yves: why not?
... the rules element is s.t. you can link
... so it may be of a different version
Christian: you should have either
Yves: summary: either a version number at the top of the document,
or in the rules element
Christian: no, always in the rules element
Yves: what if you would have both?
Felix: for the top of the document, the version attribute at the
root element counts, for the rules element, the mandatory attribute
at the rules element
Yves: how about having a version attribute at top of the document
only? That could be used for external rules as well
<chriLi> I suggest: It is incorrect to have its:version at the
top-level if there exists an its:Rules
<chriLi> I suggest: It is incorrect to have its:version at the
top-level if there exists an its:Rules
Yves: if you have rules, it is the rules version
... if you have local only, it is local only, if you have both, it
is the rules which wins
Diane: I think we need that information somewhere
Yves: we can try that
... so let's go for that
<scribe> ACTION: Yves to write a paragraph on versioning for the
tagset draft [recorded in
[17]http://www.w3.org/2006/04/05-i18nits-minutes.html#action01]
Decide on term "localization properties"
Yves: everybody agrees that we will have no change on this.
<scribe> ACTION: Yves to summarize the terminology discussion on
"localization properties" [recorded in
[18]http://www.w3.org/2006/04/05-i18nits-minutes.html#action02]
Decide on term "data category"
Yves: again agreement.
<scribe> ACTION: Yves to summarize "loc prop" discussion [recorded
in [19]http://www.w3.org/2006/04/05-i18nits-minutes.html#action03]
conformance section
Yves: any further comments?
... according for our schedule, that will be an item this week
further action items
<scribe> ACTION: Editor's of the techniques document: give examples
how to use its:locInfoRef (ONGOING) [recorded in
[20]http://www.w3.org/2006/04/05-i18nits-minutes.html#action04]
Yves: if you have comments, please tell me
Felix: we could use the period of ITS tagset last call for that
<scribe> ACTION: Richard to describe an additional level of
conformance for Ruby (PENDING) [recorded in
[21]http://www.w3.org/2006/04/05-i18nits-minutes.html#action05]
<scribe> ACTION: Felix to remind Richard of ruby additional level
[recorded in
[22]http://www.w3.org/2006/04/05-i18nits-minutes.html#action06]
<scribe> ACTION: Spec editors to integrate discussion result about
bugs 2881,2,3 (PENDING) [recorded in
[23]http://www.w3.org/2006/04/05-i18nits-minutes.html#action07]
Yves: we wait until Friday to see if people agree
<scribe> ACTION: Felix to write a mail to the data category thread
(DROPPED) [recorded in
[24]http://www.w3.org/2006/04/05-i18nits-minutes.html#action08]
<scribe> ACTION: Yves to see what problems could happen if there is
no prefix at rule elements? (DONE) [recorded in
[25]http://www.w3.org/2006/04/05-i18nits-minutes.html#action09]
Yves: I tried that with my implementations, but there were no
problems
Felix: in the next draft, it will still be with prefixes, due to
editing problems
<scribe> ACTION: Yves to write a mail about his finding about the
usage of "overriding" (DONE) [recorded in
[26]http://www.w3.org/2006/04/05-i18nits-minutes.html#action10]
Yves: even Richard used "overriding"
... Sebastian gave two definitions
<scribe> ACTION: Sebastian to give feedback on the overriding change
proposal, Diane to look at it again [recorded in
[27]http://www.w3.org/2006/04/05-i18nits-minutes.html#action11]
last call preparation
<YvesS>
[28]http://www.w3.org/International/its/itstagset/itstagset.html
[28] http://www.w3.org/International/its/itstagset/itstagset.html
Felix: please give feedback of my changes with regard to syntax
changes
<scribe> ACTION: everybody to give feedback on the tagset draft
[recorded in
[29]http://www.w3.org/2006/04/05-i18nits-minutes.html#action11x]
Christian: I made only initial changes
... it will be a section "introduction" and "basic concepts"
... I will work on it later today, and tomorrow
Yves: how about publishing on Friday?
Felix: o.k., Friday next week
... with final input of Christian on Friday this week
... as for groups, please tell me from whom you want to have
feedback
yves: how about XSLT people?
christian: is it good design to have localizable in XSLT?
yves: it is reality
<scribe> ACTION: everybody to think about which W3C working groups
shoud comment on the tagset last call draft [recorded in
[30]http://www.w3.org/2006/04/05-i18nits-minutes.html#action12]
topics for next week
yves: conformance to be finalized
... element within text
... ruby
<scribe> ACTION: everybody to look at rescheduling proposed at
[31]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2006AprJun/0
001.html [recorded in
[32]http://www.w3.org/2006/04/05-i18nits-minutes.html#action13]
[31]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2006AprJun/0001.html
next face-to-face meeting (after Oxford)
felix: end of last call period would be good
yves: how about specific locations?
... I would propose "Boulder"
... it is far for people in Europe
felix: as we discuss last call issues, we need as many people as
possible
XTech paper
felix: deadline is [33]http://xtech06.usefulinc.com/content/speakers
... first create input to tag set draft, then to the XTech paper
[33] http://xtech06.usefulinc.com/content/speakers
Yves: on Friday, we will discuss Christian's changes
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: everybody to look at rescheduling proposed at
[34]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2006AprJun/0
001.html [recorded in
[35]http://www.w3.org/2006/04/05-i18nits-minutes.html#action13]
[NEW]ACTION: everybody to give feedback on the tagset draft
[recorded in
[36]http://www.w3.org/2006/04/05-i18nits-minutes.html#action11x]
[NEW] ACTION: everybody to think about which W3C working groups
shoud comment on the tagset last call draft [recorded in
[37]http://www.w3.org/2006/04/05-i18nits-minutes.html#action12]
[NEW] ACTION: Felix to remind Richard of ruby additional level
[recorded in
[38]http://www.w3.org/2006/04/05-i18nits-minutes.html#action06]
[NEW] ACTION: Sebastian to give feedback on the overriding change
proposal, Diane to look at it again [recorded in
[39]http://www.w3.org/2006/04/05-i18nits-minutes.html#action11]
[NEW] ACTION: Yves to summarize "loc prop" discussion [recorded in
[40]http://www.w3.org/2006/04/05-i18nits-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: Yves to summarize the terminology discussion on
"localization properties" [recorded in
[41]http://www.w3.org/2006/04/05-i18nits-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: Yves to write a paragraph on versioning for the tagset
draft [recorded in
[42]http://www.w3.org/2006/04/05-i18nits-minutes.html#action01]
[34]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2006AprJun/0001.html
[PENDING] ACTION: Editor's of the techniques document: give examples
how to use its:locInfoRef [recorded in
[43]http://www.w3.org/2006/04/05-i18nits-minutes.html#action04]
[PENDING] ACTION: Richard to describe an additional level of
conformance for Ruby [recorded in
[44]http://www.w3.org/2006/04/05-i18nits-minutes.html#action05]
[PENDING] ACTION: Spec editors to integrate discussion result about
bugs 2881,2,3 [recorded in
[45]http://www.w3.org/2006/04/05-i18nits-minutes.html#action07]
[DONE] ACTION: Yves to see what problems could happen if there is no
prefix at rule elements? [recorded in
[46]http://www.w3.org/2006/04/05-i18nits-minutes.html#action09]
[DONE] ACTION: Yves to write a mail about his finding about the
usage of "overriding" [recorded in
[47]http://www.w3.org/2006/04/05-i18nits-minutes.html#action10]
[DROPPED] ACTION: Felix to write a mail to the data category thread
[recorded in
[48]http://www.w3.org/2006/04/05-i18nits-minutes.html#action08]
[End of minutes]
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