- From: Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org>
- Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 00:17:06 +0900
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... are at http://www.w3.org/2006/04/05-i18nits-minutes.html and below as text. - Felix [1]W3C [1] http://www.w3.org/ i18n ITS working group 5 Apr 2006 [2]Agenda [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2006AprJun/0007.html See also: [3]IRC log [3] http://www.w3.org/2006/04/05-i18nits-irc Attendees Present Christian, Diane, Felix, Yves Regrets Sebastian, Andrzej Chair Yves Scribe Felix Contents * [4]Topics 1. [5]versioning 2. [6]Decide on term "localization properties" 3. [7]Decide on term "data category" 4. [8]conformance section 5. [9]further action items 6. [10]last call preparation 7. [11]topics for next week 8. [12]next face-to-face meeting (after Oxford) 9. [13]XTech paper * [14]Summary of Action Items _________________________________________________________ versioning <YvesS> [15]http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=2876 [15] http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=2876 Yves: last summary was to have an its:version attribute, to put at the top of the document ... Martin had some comments about the future version Felix: would it be in the rules element as well? Yves: if it is an external file which is not linked ... if it has a version, you take the rules from the top level element in that file ... XSLT puts the version in the root element as well Christian: I'd go for a version attribute both at the top of the doc and the rules element Felix: XSLT way: [[[Definition: There are a number of standard attributes that may appear on any XSLT element: specifically version, exclude-result-prefixes, extension-element-prefixes, xpath-default-namespace, default-collation, and use-when.]]] Yves: rules can have their own version, they are prossed before the other ones Christian: We could say: If you include a rules element ... in your document, you could put the version identifier in the rules element ... if you don't have a rules element, then put it on the top most element of the host vocabulary <chriLi> test Yves: do we need that for version 1? <chriLi> We don't want this, right? <foo its:version="1.0"><its:documentRules xmlns:its="[16]http://www.w3.org/2005/11/its" its:version="1.0"> [16] http://www.w3.org/2005/11/its Yves: why not? ... the rules element is s.t. you can link ... so it may be of a different version Christian: you should have either Yves: summary: either a version number at the top of the document, or in the rules element Christian: no, always in the rules element Yves: what if you would have both? Felix: for the top of the document, the version attribute at the root element counts, for the rules element, the mandatory attribute at the rules element Yves: how about having a version attribute at top of the document only? That could be used for external rules as well <chriLi> I suggest: It is incorrect to have its:version at the top-level if there exists an its:Rules <chriLi> I suggest: It is incorrect to have its:version at the top-level if there exists an its:Rules Yves: if you have rules, it is the rules version ... if you have local only, it is local only, if you have both, it is the rules which wins Diane: I think we need that information somewhere Yves: we can try that ... so let's go for that <scribe> ACTION: Yves to write a paragraph on versioning for the tagset draft [recorded in [17]http://www.w3.org/2006/04/05-i18nits-minutes.html#action01] Decide on term "localization properties" Yves: everybody agrees that we will have no change on this. <scribe> ACTION: Yves to summarize the terminology discussion on "localization properties" [recorded in [18]http://www.w3.org/2006/04/05-i18nits-minutes.html#action02] Decide on term "data category" Yves: again agreement. <scribe> ACTION: Yves to summarize "loc prop" discussion [recorded in [19]http://www.w3.org/2006/04/05-i18nits-minutes.html#action03] conformance section Yves: any further comments? ... according for our schedule, that will be an item this week further action items <scribe> ACTION: Editor's of the techniques document: give examples how to use its:locInfoRef (ONGOING) [recorded in [20]http://www.w3.org/2006/04/05-i18nits-minutes.html#action04] Yves: if you have comments, please tell me Felix: we could use the period of ITS tagset last call for that <scribe> ACTION: Richard to describe an additional level of conformance for Ruby (PENDING) [recorded in [21]http://www.w3.org/2006/04/05-i18nits-minutes.html#action05] <scribe> ACTION: Felix to remind Richard of ruby additional level [recorded in [22]http://www.w3.org/2006/04/05-i18nits-minutes.html#action06] <scribe> ACTION: Spec editors to integrate discussion result about bugs 2881,2,3 (PENDING) [recorded in [23]http://www.w3.org/2006/04/05-i18nits-minutes.html#action07] Yves: we wait until Friday to see if people agree <scribe> ACTION: Felix to write a mail to the data category thread (DROPPED) [recorded in [24]http://www.w3.org/2006/04/05-i18nits-minutes.html#action08] <scribe> ACTION: Yves to see what problems could happen if there is no prefix at rule elements? (DONE) [recorded in [25]http://www.w3.org/2006/04/05-i18nits-minutes.html#action09] Yves: I tried that with my implementations, but there were no problems Felix: in the next draft, it will still be with prefixes, due to editing problems <scribe> ACTION: Yves to write a mail about his finding about the usage of "overriding" (DONE) [recorded in [26]http://www.w3.org/2006/04/05-i18nits-minutes.html#action10] Yves: even Richard used "overriding" ... Sebastian gave two definitions <scribe> ACTION: Sebastian to give feedback on the overriding change proposal, Diane to look at it again [recorded in [27]http://www.w3.org/2006/04/05-i18nits-minutes.html#action11] last call preparation <YvesS> [28]http://www.w3.org/International/its/itstagset/itstagset.html [28] http://www.w3.org/International/its/itstagset/itstagset.html Felix: please give feedback of my changes with regard to syntax changes <scribe> ACTION: everybody to give feedback on the tagset draft [recorded in [29]http://www.w3.org/2006/04/05-i18nits-minutes.html#action11x] Christian: I made only initial changes ... it will be a section "introduction" and "basic concepts" ... I will work on it later today, and tomorrow Yves: how about publishing on Friday? Felix: o.k., Friday next week ... with final input of Christian on Friday this week ... as for groups, please tell me from whom you want to have feedback yves: how about XSLT people? christian: is it good design to have localizable in XSLT? yves: it is reality <scribe> ACTION: everybody to think about which W3C working groups shoud comment on the tagset last call draft [recorded in [30]http://www.w3.org/2006/04/05-i18nits-minutes.html#action12] topics for next week yves: conformance to be finalized ... element within text ... ruby <scribe> ACTION: everybody to look at rescheduling proposed at [31]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2006AprJun/0 001.html [recorded in [32]http://www.w3.org/2006/04/05-i18nits-minutes.html#action13] [31] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2006AprJun/0001.html next face-to-face meeting (after Oxford) felix: end of last call period would be good yves: how about specific locations? ... I would propose "Boulder" ... it is far for people in Europe felix: as we discuss last call issues, we need as many people as possible XTech paper felix: deadline is [33]http://xtech06.usefulinc.com/content/speakers ... first create input to tag set draft, then to the XTech paper [33] http://xtech06.usefulinc.com/content/speakers Yves: on Friday, we will discuss Christian's changes Summary of Action Items [NEW] ACTION: everybody to look at rescheduling proposed at [34]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2006AprJun/0 001.html [recorded in [35]http://www.w3.org/2006/04/05-i18nits-minutes.html#action13] [NEW]ACTION: everybody to give feedback on the tagset draft [recorded in [36]http://www.w3.org/2006/04/05-i18nits-minutes.html#action11x] [NEW] ACTION: everybody to think about which W3C working groups shoud comment on the tagset last call draft [recorded in [37]http://www.w3.org/2006/04/05-i18nits-minutes.html#action12] [NEW] ACTION: Felix to remind Richard of ruby additional level [recorded in [38]http://www.w3.org/2006/04/05-i18nits-minutes.html#action06] [NEW] ACTION: Sebastian to give feedback on the overriding change proposal, Diane to look at it again [recorded in [39]http://www.w3.org/2006/04/05-i18nits-minutes.html#action11] [NEW] ACTION: Yves to summarize "loc prop" discussion [recorded in [40]http://www.w3.org/2006/04/05-i18nits-minutes.html#action03] [NEW] ACTION: Yves to summarize the terminology discussion on "localization properties" [recorded in [41]http://www.w3.org/2006/04/05-i18nits-minutes.html#action02] [NEW] ACTION: Yves to write a paragraph on versioning for the tagset draft [recorded in [42]http://www.w3.org/2006/04/05-i18nits-minutes.html#action01] [34] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2006AprJun/0001.html [PENDING] ACTION: Editor's of the techniques document: give examples how to use its:locInfoRef [recorded in [43]http://www.w3.org/2006/04/05-i18nits-minutes.html#action04] [PENDING] ACTION: Richard to describe an additional level of conformance for Ruby [recorded in [44]http://www.w3.org/2006/04/05-i18nits-minutes.html#action05] [PENDING] ACTION: Spec editors to integrate discussion result about bugs 2881,2,3 [recorded in [45]http://www.w3.org/2006/04/05-i18nits-minutes.html#action07] [DONE] ACTION: Yves to see what problems could happen if there is no prefix at rule elements? [recorded in [46]http://www.w3.org/2006/04/05-i18nits-minutes.html#action09] [DONE] ACTION: Yves to write a mail about his finding about the usage of "overriding" [recorded in [47]http://www.w3.org/2006/04/05-i18nits-minutes.html#action10] [DROPPED] ACTION: Felix to write a mail to the data category thread [recorded in [48]http://www.w3.org/2006/04/05-i18nits-minutes.html#action08] [End of minutes] _________________________________________________________ Minutes formatted by David Booth's [49]scribe.perl version 1.127 ([50]CVS log) $Date: 2006/04/05 15:15:14 $ [49] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm [50] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2002/scribe/
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