- From: Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org>
- Date: Mon, 18 May 2015 21:13:10 +0200
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See
http://www.w3.org/2015/05/18-i18nits-minutes <http://www.w3.org/2015/05/18-i18nits-minutes>
and below as text.
- Felix
[1]W3C
[1] http://www.w3.org/
- DRAFT -
ITS IG
18 May 2015
[2]Agenda
[2] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its-ig/2015May/
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2015/05/18-i18nits-irc
Attendees
Present
felix, yves, davidF, serge
Regrets
christian, Phil, David
Chair
felix
Scribe
fsasaki
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]roll call
2. [6]Action items
3. [7]XLIFF mapping
4. [8]ITS in JSON
5. [9]taus TML proposal
6. [10]XLIFF f2f meeting in Berlin 1 July
7. [11]usual topics & AOB
* [12]Summary of Action Items
__________________________________________________________
roll call
<dF> my other meeting got cancelled
<dF> will connect to audio shortly
[13]https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its-ig/201
5May/0005.html
[13] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its-ig/2015May/0005.html
Action items
action-30?
<trackbot> action-30 -- David Lewis to work on json-ld mapping
of its2 -- due 2014-05-30 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[14]http://www.w3.org/International/its/ig/track/actions/30
[14] http://www.w3.org/International/its/ig/track/actions/30
XLIFF mapping
david: there is development on storage size data category
... fredrik deveploed a solution on that, should appear shortly
in developers draft
... other from that situation did not change
... summary: there is good text analytics and terminology
description in the editors draft
... MT confidendence and provenance are still missing from the
high priority data categories
... to move this forward we need some discussion
... we would need a mockup / strawman how provenance would work
for june f2f
... also for MT confidence
... would be good to discuss these to during the f2f
felix: could I contribute s.t.?
david: sure - I took the mappings that Yves created in the
wiki, then take the behaviour of the attributes
... explain the same constraints as constraints of a custom
mapping
... that is defined as part of ITS module
... there is an annotation mechanism in XLIFF
... various elements on structural or inline level
... that gives control about how the annotations should work
... currently sorush working on advanced validation
... direct editing in XML source code in oasis is OK
felix: would be ok to create MT confidence and provenance
section
david: sure
... you could also contribute to schematron validation
ITS in JSON
<Yves_>
[15]https://www.w3.org/International/its/wiki/JSON%2BITS
[15] https://www.w3.org/International/its/wiki/JSON%2BITS
yves: very basic right now
... david had a good point - selection mechanism is defined as
json path
... could also use other mechnaisms like json select
... you could define which selector mechnaism you are using
serge: very nice demo!
... is there a way to look at the IoT demo?
felix: once we slides of the IoT demo are done I will send them
around
[16]http://www.locworld.com/sessions/the-internet-of-things/
[16] http://www.locworld.com/sessions/the-internet-of-things/
<dF> Yves will also present ITS for json at FEISGILTT
[17]http://www.locworld.com/feisgiltt-program/
[17] http://www.locworld.com/feisgiltt-program/
discussion on IoT and localisation
[18]https://sgladkoff.wordpress.com/2015/05/16/riga-summit-pers
onal-report/
[18] https://sgladkoff.wordpress.com/2015/05/16/riga-summit-personal-report/
(Riga summit summary from Serge)
serge: presentation about communication between machines - that
can be connected to IoT I think
"Dr.Robert Dale from ARRIA."
felix: is there need for ITS locally, e.g. inside a json
string?
yves: yes, in our demo, you have data that you can get
dynamically
... you would need to add a flag then if things are
translatable
... local stuff could be done via global rules as well
... to trigger specific conditions
... so you don't need an ITS specific mechanism, but a flag
that the global rules can use
felix: so like ITS mapping for XML vocabularies?
yves: corrrect
... and you can also have external rules, json is very flexible
[19]https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/json-schema
[19] https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/json-schema
felix: what is the best forum to get feedback from json
community?
yves: most developers don't care - if they need it they go to
github and use the code ,and things become the defacto standard
felix: good point - so just move implemnetation forward and try
to get some uptake & feedback
taus TML proposal
[20]https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its-ig/201
5Apr/0004.html
[20] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its-ig/2015Apr/0004.html
felix: should we follow up on that?
... or just leave things "as is"?
serge: have discussion in TAUS website is good PR for us. I was
busy could not follow up yet
... I'll follow up on this
... there was a good technical discussion, there is a good
argument why ITS makes sense
felix: CEF community working on language resource collection -
should we involve them too?
serge: metadata for LR at the moment is not an issue, but
quality
... question is how to evaluate things - not clear how to
introduce ITS on legacy resources
... e.g.. automatic mapping to standard ITS
... if you go forward sure, then ITS adding has value
felix: agree, and TM or parallel corpora were not in focus for
ITS so far
XLIFF f2f meeting in Berlin 1 July
felix: any other topics we should prepare for f2f meeting?
... in addition to provenance and mt confidence?
david: review the data categories that are done in the spec
discussion on XLIFF mapping action items
david: if you send input this week we can word smith during f2f
yves: ok
david: will identify gaps and will look for volunteers to close
them
... could have a small task force in the XLIFF TC for
schematron rules
... looking into other serializations of XLIFF during wednesday
[21]http://de.slideshare.net/m1ci/nif-tutorial/10
[21] http://de.slideshare.net/m1ci/nif-tutorial/10
felix: may be a syngery to the RDF - NIF representation, see
NIF link above
serge: would be nice to explain how this is being done, with
RDF applications
felix: FREME started some related implemtnation, has not gone
public yet, hopefully soon
usual topics & AOB
david: send a doodle to the whole list for the call?
... re-create awareness of the time
felix: doodle for call time, sure, I'll send one out
david: we need more working sessions - currently call is more
status checking
adjourned
Summary of Action Items
[End of minutes]
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