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Re: Please review: Strings and bidi

From: r12a <ishida@w3.org>
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2017 13:06:36 +0100
To: Matitiahu Allouche <matitiahu.allouche@gmail.com>, public-i18n-core@w3.org, public-i18n-arabic@w3.org, public-i18n-hebrew@w3.org
Message-ID: <e26289c6-b1ec-5f7a-d7c2-c0e43efbf937@w3.org>
FYI, i responded to this comment at 
https://github.com/w3c/i18n-drafts/issues/107

I should have said, please use that github repository to raise any 
further issues. (You can open a new issue by clicking on the link near 
the bottom of the article "Leave a comment"0

ri



On 18/08/2017 15:34, Matitiahu Allouche wrote:
> In the last paragraph you write: "this may be a Latin transcription of a non-Latin string"
> 
> I am not sure that I understand the problem. The language being Hebrew, which is generally written in a RTL script, we can guess that the required direction is RTL. If there are such Latin transcriptions within Hebrew-script text, they should be treated just like actual English, French or Greek phrases included within a generally Hebrew text.
> 
> There could be a problem if all the Hebrew content is written as Latin transcription. In this case, the "lang":"he" may do more harm than good. If this is your intended use case, it should be more explicit, and the word "string" does not convey the idea.
> 
> I suggest:
> "this may be a Latin transcription (to be written left to right) of a unit of text in a language usually written with a RTL script, so that deriving the direction from the declared language does not indicate correctly how the Latin transcription should be written."
> Note that I have written "unit of text" instead of "string". I am not sure this is the best term. Something more specific like "paragraph" might be preferred.
> 
> Shalom (Regards),  Mati
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: r12a [mailto:ishida@w3.org]
> Sent: Friday, August 18, 2017 12:52 PM
> To: public-i18n-core@w3.org; public-i18n-arabic@w3.org; public-i18n-hebrew@w3.org
> Subject: Re: Please review: Strings and bidi
> 
> On 31/07/2017 14:49, r12a wrote:
>> Could you please take a quick look at this proposed new article.
>>
>> To help with discussions about the problems of handling strings in
>> bidi environments i put together an illustration of the major
>> problems, hoping it will be fairly accessible to people who know
>> little about the bidi algorithm, etc.
> 
> I have added a third potential solution at the end, which uses language information to guess at direction.  Please take a look and send me any comments you have.
> 
> http://w3c.github.io/i18n-drafts/articles/strings-and-bidi/index.en.html#third
> 
> thanks,
> ri
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