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Re: Please review: Strings and bidi

From: Lina Kemmel <LKEMMEL@il.ibm.com>
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2017 14:23:24 +0300
To: r12a <ishida@w3.org>
Cc: public-i18n-arabic@w3.org, "public-i18n-core@w3.org" <public-i18n-core@w3.org>, public-i18n-hebrew@w3.org
Message-Id: <OF22EBF496.6781C25C-ONC225816F.003E3A1F-C225816F.003E94ED@notes.na.collabserv.com>
Well, I just realized it was plain text (but not <title>:<value> 
sequence). So I withdraw my previous comments.




From:   Lina Kemmel/Israel/IBM
To:     r12a <ishida@w3.org>
Cc:     public-i18n-arabic@w3.org, "public-i18n-core@w3.org" 
<public-i18n-core@w3.org>, public-i18n-hebrew@w3.org
Date:   01/08/2017 14:15
Subject:        Re: Please review: Strings and bidi


Similar comment on Presented to an Arabic user, with isolation

CSS: 新しい冒険! 
I'd prefer to display in an RTL page as:

 新しい冒険! :CSS
CSS: הרפתקה חדשה! 
(RTL base direction, LTR for embedded Japanese).





From:   "Lina Kemmel" <LKEMMEL@il.ibm.com>
To:     r12a <ishida@w3.org>
Cc:     "public-i18n-core@w3.org" <public-i18n-core@w3.org>, 
public-i18n-arabic@w3.org, public-i18n-hebrew@w3.org
Date:   01/08/2017 13:55
Subject:        Re: Please review: Strings and bidi



Hi Richard and everyone,

My comments:

Presented to English user:

    I am not sure "The title of the book in the arabic translation should 
read: 
   " ‫CSS: مغامرة جديدة!‬ " or
    "‫CSS: הרפתקה חדשה!‬ " for Hebrew.

   I'd probably prefer treat it as structured text with 2 tokens [(1) CSS, 

(2) value] laid out in container's direction:

       "CSS: הרפתקה חדשה‫!‬‬"
   - i.e. LTR paragraph/base direction and RTL embedded Hebrew substring.

   In that way it will appear consistently with LTR scripts (and on an LTR 

page), while the Hebrew value will be displayed from right to left:

CSS: 新しい冒険!
CSS: הרפתקה חדשה‫!‬

- vs.

CSS: 新しい冒険!
‫CSS: הרפתקה חדשה!‬



Best regards,
Lina Kemmel
  GCoC Bidi architect
  IBM Software Group






From:   r12a <ishida@w3.org>
To:     "public-i18n-core@w3.org" <public-i18n-core@w3.org>, 
public-i18n-arabic@w3.org, public-i18n-hebrew@w3.org
Date:   31/07/2017 16:49
Subject:        Please review: Strings and bidi



Could you please take a quick look at this proposed new article.

To help with discussions about the problems of handling strings in bidi 
environments i put together an illustration of the major problems, 
hoping it will be fairly accessible to people who know little about the 
bidi algorithm, etc.

I'd like to show this to the W3C TAG quite soon, since they asked for 
something like it.

By way of an internal review, could you let me know quickly if there are 
any egregious issues that need to be addressed?

thanks,
ri







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