- From: John Yunker <jyunker@bytelevel.com>
- Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 11:52:46 -0800
- To: Tex Texin <tex@i18nguy.com>
- Cc: public-i18n-geo@w3.org
Tex, Thanks so much for the comments. This is a complex issue, as you illustrated, and I'm honestly not sure at this point that I can adequately address and resolve all the comments I've received so far in one FAQ. The larger problem is that for every recommendation I make there will be an exception (or more) that is equally valid. So much depends on what the company's goals are. Thanks again, JY On Feb 16, 2005, at 11:12 AM, Tex Texin wrote: > Hi John, > A couple comments for you: > > 1) I agree pulldowns are not nice. So I wonder why we give so much > attention to them instead of focusing more on alternatives. Also, I > would consider taking the comments that are not pulldown specific and > making them general comments. > For example, location, globe icon, utf-8, use of graphics etc. could be > stated as considerations having nothing to do with pull-downs, but > general techniques that may also be used for pull-downs. > > 2) You mention location of top, right. Does this hold true for right to > left languages? > > Also, I suggest the recommendation is perhaps too specific, because it > doesn't give any discussion of what is competing for that space and how > to evaluate how to optimize the needs of the other typical banner > items. > company logo, store locations, contact, support, etc. I realize there > is > considerable variability, but to simply say top-right doesn't really > give people an idea of why that should be, what the alternatives are, > and why some of the other common uses for that location shouldn't be > given priority. Maybe a reference or two, if it would make the faq too > long. > > 3) This faq confuses locale and language. It starts out discussing > locales, which to me means it is about selecting the region that the > site will discuss. > Later it talks about language. I think a web site should be clear on > whether the navigation is addressing the type of content being selected > or the language being selected. > > 4) Assuming the intent is language selection, I don't think globe is a > good symbol for languages. Since globe is geographic, when I see it, I > presume it is indicating something that will help me know more about > the > countries a company sells in. regional offices, etc. > We do need a good global symbol for languages. The face profile with > lines coming out indicating speech works, although it could indicate > voice, chat or other function. Maybe a graphic with the first letter of > several scripts? (a, alef, alpha, etc.) > If you had locales in mind, I agree globe is a good choice. > > > hth. > tex > >> Revised gateway FAQ >> >> From: John Yunker <jyunker@bytelevel.com> >> Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:34:52 -0800 >> To: GEO <public-i18n-geo@w3.org> >> >> Based on input from the call today, here is the revised text and image >> attachments. >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> FAQ Global Gateway >> >> Question >> What are the best practices for using a pull-down menu on my company's >> Web site to direct visitors to their country Web sites? >> >> Background >> As companies launch an increasing number of localized Web sites, >> user-friendly global navigation grows in importance. The term "global >> gateway" is frequently used to refer to the visual and technical >> devices that Web sites employ to direct visitors to their content. One >> of the more popular devices is a pull-down menu on the home page that >> includes links to the other locales. >> >> Answer >> The pull-down menu is not a silver bullet for global navigation and it >> may not be the best solution for your Web site. If your site supports >> only a handful of locales, it is better to avoid using a pull-down >> menu >> altogether and simply include links directly to each locale. Also, if >> your company offers more than 20 locales, a pull-down menu is not very >> usable for those Web users who must scroll to the end of the list. >> >> However, if you do decide to use a pull-down menu, here are some best >> practices to keep in mind: >> >> 1. Locate the pull-down menu at the top of all Web pages, preferably >> to >> the right side. This location is highly visible, reducing the chance >> that the visitor will not see it. Furthermore, an increasing number of >> Web sites have located their global gateways in this location, >> conditioning Web users to come to expect it here. >> >> 2. Include an icon of a globe or map next to the pull-down menu. You >> cannot expect Web users who are not fluent in English to understand >> "Select language." Universally recognized icons communicate to people >> regardless of what language they speak. Over time, the globe icon >> could >> be as widely recognized as the shopping cart icon. See the example >> below from the Philips Web site. (image: philips.jpg) >> >> 3. Translate the menu options as necessary. Instead of including a >> link >> on the pull-down menu that reads, for example, "French" the link >> should >> read "Français." >> >> To display a mix of non-Latin languages, such as Arabic, Russian and >> Japanese, your Web page will need to support the UTF-8 (Unicode) >> encoding. Please note that if you do switch to UTF-8, the Web user >> must >> have a font that can display this range of scripts; most new operating >> systems do ship with such a font. Be aware that a Web user in the US, >> for example, may see empty boxes in place of the Japanese text while >> the user in Japan will see the text just fine. >> >> If you do not want to change encodings, an alternative is to embed >> non-Latin text within graphics located outside of the pull-down menu, >> as demonstrated by the Symantec Web site. (image: symantec.gif) >> >> >> John Yunker >> Byte Level Research >> >> >> >> * application/applefile attachment: philips.jpg >> >> [philips.jpg] [symantec.gif] >
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