- From: Charles McCathieNevile <charles@w3.org>
- Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 05:54:45 -0500 (EST)
- To: Roberto Scano - IWA/HWG <rscano@iwa-italy.org>
- cc: <ishida@w3.org>, <w3c-i18n-ig@w3.org>, <public-i18n-geo@w3.org>, Al Gilman <asgilman@iamdigex.net>, <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
Hi folks, I am working up a demo now. The basic idea is that using annotea we can point to the text in question and provide an alternative version for it - e.g. a couple of words in the title of an HTML document, or within an alt attribute. As far as I know this is not yet supported by annotea clients in a clean authoring/reading interface, but this may become a useful demonstration case for what we would like (and for why it would be better in common cases to have a simpler method using language built-ins). I'll get back to you when I have posted the demo page and annotation... cheers Chaals On Fri, 14 Mar 2003, Roberto Scano - IWA/HWG wrote: > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Al Gilman" <asgilman@iamdigex.net> >To: "Roberto Scano - IWA/HWG" <rscano@iwa-italy.org>; <ishida@w3.org>; ><w3c-i18n-ig@w3.org>; <public-i18n-geo@w3.org> >Cc: <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org> >Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 12:10 AM >Subject: Re: Re[2]: FW: acronym in title... > >>I would approach the assistive technology developers and ask what >>kind of an indirect relationship they could most readily see >>implementing. Will they come to the W3C DOM for this information? >>Do we need to get it into MSAA? > >I think that IBM and other W3C member that create these applications could >reply to this. > >>It would not be hard to write a tool that reads a glossary and >>adds things like the language information to HTML attributes where >>they appear in the DOM. Then the assistive technology could know that >>'Piazza San Marco' was Italian. > >Hum... i think it would be difficoult to have a full dictionary for all the >possible words. >But - at now - i have no proposal for solution in my mind :-/ > >>The problem is that if the HTML Working Group were to introduce an >>incompatible change in a minor release like that, who would implement >>it? The conventional wisdom is "nobody." And I am not inclined to >>second-guess the experts on that point. >> >>Incompatible changes in HTML are generally not going to be considered >>outside the XHTML 2.0 activity, as it is risky to think with the heavy use >>of HTML all the time that any incompatible changes will be taken up in >>practice, even with the best efforts of the HTML WG. >> >>XHTML 2.0 is the version that HTML WG is working on. We would have to have >>a flaming disaster going on to get an incompatible change released as some >>sort of an interim patch, and it is not clear who would implement it. >> >>Besides, there are too many, too good, ways to do this in ways that >>interoperate with HTML 2.0. > >[cut] > >>There is also a plugin option for the browser extension. Also an >>independent screen scraper like Atomica. > >So, at least, for the "previous" version all we can do is to "hope" to >have - for example - intelligent text readers that read the words in the >natural language... > >Roberto Scano >IWA/HWG EMEA Coordinator >W3C Advisory Committee Representative for IWA/HWG >International Webmasters Association / HTML Writers Guild >http://www.iwanet.org - http://www.hwg.org >E-Mail: emea@iwanet.org - w3c-rep@iwanet.org >-------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- Charles McCathieNevile http://www.w3.org/People/Charles tel: +61 409 134 136 SWAD-E http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/Europe fax(france): +33 4 92 38 78 22 Post: 21 Mitchell street, FOOTSCRAY Vic 3011, Australia or W3C, 2004 Route des Lucioles, 06902 Sophia Antipolis Cedex, France
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