RE: viewing our pages in mac browsers

Phil,

Many thanks for doing this !  Its quite depressing, but good to know.  I
am copying to the rest of the group, as this is valuable information.

I noticed a couple of additional things over and above what you said.
Let me try to summarise all below:

General
-	several shots include an unusually small aleph - this may due to
the font
-	pretty much all Mac browsers tested struggled to display 
	...<p><img align="right".../></p></div> without
	the graphic being displayed below the bottom of 
	the div --- I changed the code to hopefully avoid
	this by using ...<p dir="rtl"><img ../></p></div>
	instead

Safari
-	seems to support Arabic well, and does exhibit the expected 
	behaviour wrt spacing before </span>, but...
-	doesn't mirror parens !
	
Mac Mozilla
-	seems to support Arabic ok, but...
-	does weird things with spaces - they are very wide
-	extraneous space introduced in last test ie. 
	aaaaaa (     W3C) aaaaaa
-	doesn't exhibit expected behaviour wrt space before </span>

Mac NN6
-	doesn't support Unicode characters....
-	doesn't recognise Unicode characters - all displayed as ?
	(does, however, right align <p dir="rtl">)
-	*very* weird handling of last test, ie. (aaaaaW3Caaaaa)
	rather than aaaaa (W3C) aaaaaa

Mac IE
-	doesn't support Arabic display...
-	displays Latin1 characters rather than arabic
-	doesn't even right align <p dir="rtl">


As time goes on I'm thinking more and more that it would be good to
develop tests for each technique that we could run on a variety of
browsers to check applicability, and link to these tests from the
techniques themselves.  I believe WCAG is doing the same thing.

I guess we should also begin opening channels with the various browser
development teams.

Cheers,
RI

============
Richard Ishida
W3C

tel: +44 1753 480 292
http://www.w3.org/International/
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Arko, Phil [mailto:phil.arko@scr.siemens.com] 
> Sent: 03 July 2003 14:26
> To: 'ishida@w3.org'
> Subject: viewing our pages in mac browsers
> 
> 
> Hi Richard,
> 
> Just following up on the Mac browser issue... The things that 
> I mentioned were fixed (the Euro sign, and the extra bullet 
> on the "more" lines). I did notice some problems with the 
> bidi question though. I took several screenshots from my 
> PowerBook G4, running Mac OS X 10.2 / Jaguar edition (see the 
> attached screenshots).
> 
> Safari -- This is quickly becoming an extremely popular 
> browser for Mac OS X because it is integrated with the look & 
> feel of the rest of the OS X environment, and it is the 
> fastest browser available. It displays the characters 
> properly, but there is just one small misallignment with the 
> "result" line in both the Background and the Answer (as is 
> the case with all of these browsers.
> 
> MS Internet Explorer -- While Unicode is native to the Mac 
> OS, Microsoft has not implemented it into its Mac-based 
> applications, so Internet Explorer does not properly display 
> the text (there is no user preference that can fix this). IE 
> has been quite popular on the Mac.
> 
> Netscape -- This used to be (I believe) the most popular 
> browser for the Mac, so many people still use Netscape 
> because of habit. The Unicode doesn't display properly.
> 
> Mozilla -- This is less popular, but there is a small loyal 
> group that uses Mozilla because of the tabbed browser window 
> feature (as well as a few other features).
> 
> I know that most general users tend to use a Windows-based 
> system, but Macs have been very popular for designers and 
> content authors that don't want to worry about the technology 
> required to write a simple article.
> 
>  <<mac screenshots.zip>> 
>

Received on Friday, 4 July 2003 12:01:00 UTC