- From: Martin Duerst <duerst@w3.org>
- Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 19:34:11 -0500
- To: Tex Texin <tex@XenCraft.com>, Russ Rolfe <rrolfe@windows.microsoft.com>
- Cc: ishida@w3.org, public-i18n-geo@w3.org
At 13:24 03/01/22 -0500, Tex Texin wrote: >The recommendations need some discussion. I thought the list was good >but then reading the article raised some questions for me. Perhaps it >needs a detailed review. > >1) Wasn't Terry Farrell the actress that played Jadzia Dax on Star Trek? >Can we trust a Trill? ;-) >(Sorry I couldn't let it pass.) > >2) The argument for putting controls in a separate cell- is that >Microsoft specific ? (points 3 and 5) > >3) I agree with not using absolutes. But I notice the new >recommendations (not these that Russ offered, but others) for table-less >web pages and using DIVs instead, seem to make heavy use of specific >pixel values or sizes to accomplish their goals. I'm not sure this is true. The W3C home page uses some 1px values for margins, but otherwise only % and em as units. >I find it very >anti-i18n and anti-accessibility. Anti-i18n yes. But I don't understand anti-accessability. Regards, Martin. >I also find it very hard to do simple >things, like put an image next to centered text. (I don't understand why >CSS has left, right and no center, except on a background.) There are >many web pages sprouting up telling people how to use the new technique. >Perhaps we need to tell people how to work with DIVs in an i18n friendly >way (if its possible). > >tex > >Russ Rolfe wrote: > > > > This E-mail is to fill one of my action items from last weeks > (16-Jan-2003) teleconference. > > > > Here is a list of 10 rules to follow to allow HTML pages to change > their layouts automatically depending on what language is being displayed. > > > > Rule 1: Never Use Absolute Positions > > Rule 2: Dialog Boxes Should Use the Available Width and Height > > Rule 3: Each Control Should Be in a Separate Cell > > Rule 4: Allow Wrapping Text > > Rule 5: Separate Check Boxes and Radio Buttons from Labels > > Rule 6: Leave Room for Growth and Avoid Fixed-Width Items > > Rule 7: Methods for Sizing Buttons, List Boxes, and Group Boxes > > Rule 8: When to Set Height > > Rule 9: Do Not Use Left or Right Align > > Rule 10: Avoid Inline CSS With Values that International Needs to Change > > > > To read more about this in detail you can visit our Microsoft on this > issue at: > > > > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/itsolutions/intranet/build/hal.asp > > > > Also, this is located, along with demo files, on the companion CD to > Developing International Software -- 2nd. > > > > http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/DIS_v2/default.asp > > > > Let me know if you have any questions. > > > > Regards, Russ (rrolfe) > > One of the World-Ready Guides (wrg) > > Are you World-Ready? http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev > >-- >------------------------------------------------------------- >Tex Texin cell: +1 781 789 1898 mailto:Tex@XenCraft.com >Xen Master http://www.i18nGuy.com > >XenCraft http://www.XenCraft.com >Making e-Business Work Around the World >-------------------------------------------------------------
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