- From: Richard Ishida <ishida@w3.org>
- Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 18:30:26 +0000
- To: "public-i18n-core@w3.org" <public-i18n-core@w3.org>
http://www.w3.org/2012/02/29-i18n-minutes.html
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Internationalization Core Working Group Teleconference
29 Feb 2012
[2]Agenda
[2]
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2012Feb/0016.html
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2012/02/29-i18n-irc
Attendees
Present
Addison, Richard, Norbert, Mati, Koji, John, Gwyneth, Felix
Regrets
David
Chair
Addison Phillips
Scribe
Addison Phillips
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]Minutes/Agenda
2. [6]Action Items
3. [7]Info Share
4. [8]Clearing issues in "prep"
5. [9]bidi and attribute direction
6. [10]AOB?
* [11]Summary of Action Items
_________________________________________________________
Minutes/Agenda
Action Items
<scribe> ACTION: dclarke: run the time change poll [recorded in
[12]http://www.w3.org/2012/02/29-i18n-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-102 - Run the time change poll [on David
Clarke - due 2012-03-07].
acttion 100: wrote to sam, but not hixie yet
<r12a> [13]http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open
[13] http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open
close ACTION-99
<trackbot> ACTION-99 Invite mike to next meeting to discuss ruby
spec development closed
close ACTION-98
<trackbot> ACTION-98 Update ruby bug with summary of current
situation and asking for no re-escalation closed
Info Share
<Norbert>
[14]http://wiki.ecmascript.org/doku.php?id=globalization:specificati
on_drafts
[14]
http://wiki.ecmascript.org/doku.php?id=globalization:specification_drafts
Norbert: ECMAScript Internationalization
... published new spec (above link)
... and new version of my guide:
<Norbert>
[15]http://norbertlindenberg.com/2012/02/ecmascript-internationaliza
tion-api/index.html
[15]
http://norbertlindenberg.com/2012/02/ecmascript-internationalization-api/index.html
Norbert: : some progress, but needed to have a final version as of,
well, yesterday
... not enough review
... started to discuss new schedule
... send comments to es-discuss@
Norbert; put "internationalization" or "internationalization API" in
email subject so it's visible
scribe: or "INTL"
Clearing issues in "prep"
HTML5 [16]http://www.w3.org/International/track/products/10 (Issues
136 - 141) Additional Predefined Counter Styles for CSS
[17]http://www.w3.org/International/track/products/16 CSS3 Generated
and Replaced Content Module
[18]http://www.w3.org/International/track/products/14 HTML: The
Markup Language
[19]http://www.w3.org/International/track/products/12
[16] http://www.w3.org/International/track/products/10
[17] http://www.w3.org/International/track/products/16
[18] http://www.w3.org/International/track/products/14
[19] http://www.w3.org/International/track/products/12
richard: these are things we ought to bless and or non-bless these
... and then forward, as needed
[20]http://www.w3.org/International/track/issues/136
[20] http://www.w3.org/International/track/issues/136
"The algorithm to convert a string to a number, given a string
input, is as follows: If applying the rules for parsing floating
point number values to input results in an error, then return an
error; otherwise, return the resulting number." Does this refer to
conversion of the text the user inputs into the field, ie. if the
user types in 12.345,67 will the rules for parsing floating point
number values be applied to that to determine whether or not that is
[21]http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/number-state.html#number-state
[21] http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/number-state.html#number-state
[22]http://www.w3.org/International/track/issues/138
[22] http://www.w3.org/International/track/issues/138
I imagine this will get shot down, but I've been thinking I should
suggest it for some time. It's a pain in the neck to have to write
both lang and xml:lang attributes on an element in a polyglot
document, and I've seen plenty of pages in the wild from people who
should know better where either the lang attribute is missing in
XHTML 1.x but the xml:lang attribute is there, as well as vice
versa. Can we not just make xml:lang a synonym of the lang
attribute?
richard: rare to use both
addison: inconvenient to have to use both
[23]http://www.w3.org/International/track/issues/141
[23] http://www.w3.org/International/track/issues/141
it's a typo
<scribe> chair: any opposed to these being official
(various and sundry approve)
<r12a> [24]http://www.w3.org/International/track/issues/146
[24] http://www.w3.org/International/track/issues/146
[25]http://www.w3.org/International/track/issues/141
[25] http://www.w3.org/International/track/issues/141
"For each group with an odd index (as given in the second step) that
did not have its digits removed in the third step, append ፻ U+137B."
In the example 78010092, in ethiopic, is ፸፰፻፩፼፻፺፪ U+1378 U+1370
U+137B U+1369 U+137C U+137B U+137A U+136A, the group that contains
00 seems to have been replaced by ፻. This seems to contradict the
text "did not have its digits removed in the third step".
<andrewc> [26]http://www.geez.org/Numerals/
[26] http://www.geez.org/Numerals/
<r12a> [27]http://www.w3.org/International/track/issues/140
[27] http://www.w3.org/International/track/issues/140
<q> element nesting
this is to *reset* the nesting level
addison: this is to start the conversation with them
<r12a> [28]http://www.w3.org/International/track/issues/75
[28] http://www.w3.org/International/track/issues/75
addison: I will supply a summary by next week of the remainder
bidi and attribute direction
matial: thread about direction and how to specify on attrbitues
... like @alt
... some attributes include text that is in language and needs a
direction
... the attribute's direction is the same as that of the element
itself
... but sometimes this is inappropriate
<p lang="en">This is something with an Arabic image <img alt="CIBARA
SI SIHT"></p>
rtl, ltr, auto values for 'attribdir' attribute
scribe: to override the direction of the text in the attributes
... if specified as auto, would be computed
... discussion about what the best way to handle it is
... agreed on a proposal
... and Aharon filed a bug on HTML5
<r12a> [29]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=16160
[29] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=16160
Norbert: similar discussion of @lang
richard: @alt and @title would be the most common case
<foo title="something" alt="else" attribdir="auto" />
<foo title="english" alt="english" lang="de">deutsch</foo>
<span title="english" lang="en"><p lang="xxx"></p></span>
<r12a> <span title="German"><a lang="de" xml:lang="de"
href="/International/questions/qa-css-charset.de.php?changelang=de">
Deutsch</a></span>
richard: should put into our tracker
<scribe> chair: objections to endorsing this bug?
richard: "reviewed by working group and no objections"
addison: makes sense
<scribe> ACTION: addison: update html5 bug 16160 and note that we
reviewed and have no objections [recorded in
[30]http://www.w3.org/2012/02/29-i18n-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-103 - Update html5 bug 16160 and note that
we reviewed and have no objections [on Addison Phillips - due
2012-03-07].
<najib-ma> :-)
AOB?
<r12a>
[31]http://www.w3.org/International/reviews/review-instructions
[31] http://www.w3.org/International/reviews/review-instructions
raising IRI issues internal to the group
use the tracker
<scribe> ACTION: richard: raise IRI product in tracker [recorded in
[32]http://www.w3.org/2012/02/29-i18n-minutes.html#action04]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-104 - Raise IRI product in tracker [on
Richard Ishida - due 2012-03-07].
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: addison: update html5 bug 16160 and note that we
reviewed and have no objections [recorded in
[33]http://www.w3.org/2012/02/29-i18n-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: David: run the time change poll [recorded in
[34]http://www.w3.org/2012/02/29-i18n-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: dclarke: run the time change poll [recorded in
[35]http://www.w3.org/2012/02/29-i18n-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: richard: raise IRI product in tracker [recorded in
[36]http://www.w3.org/2012/02/29-i18n-minutes.html#action04]
[End of minutes]
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Richard Ishida
Internationalization Activity Lead
W3C (World Wide Web Consortium)
http://www.w3.org/International/
http://rishida.net/
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