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[Bug 13417] New: i18n-ISSUE-139: Multilingual q nesting

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Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 17:17:31 +0000
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           Summary: i18n-ISSUE-139: Multilingual q nesting
           Product: HTML WG
           Version: unspecified
          Platform: PC
        OS/Version: All
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P2
         Component: HTML5 spec (editor: Ian Hickson)
        AssignedTo: ian@hixie.ch
        ReportedBy: public-i18n-core@w3.org
         QAContact: public-html-bugzilla@w3.org
                CC: mike@w3.org, public-html-wg-issue-tracking@w3.org,

4.6.7 The q element

Not discussed in the i18n WG yet, but tracked by i18n tracker.

[I'm putting this here as a placeholder, since we're near to the end of last
call, and i need more time to consider and discuss but will be away on

I'm wondering whether we need a way to reset the embedding levels of quotes. 
This may involve markup, rather than just CSS (that's what I need to think more

Here's the reason:

If you have the following CSS:

:lang(en) > * { quotes: '"' '"' "'" "'"; }
:lang(no) > * { quotes: "«" "»" '"' '"' }

And you have 

<p lang=no>Some Norwegian text <q>more norwegian <q>more norwegian</q></q>.</p>

You'd expect to see

Some Norwegian text «more norwegian "more norwegian"».

which perfectly fine.

But if you had 

<p lang=en>Some English text <q lang=no>Some norwegian <q>more

Then I think you'd see 

Some English text "Some norwegian "more norwegian"".

I'd have thought that the quotes surrounding the text 'more norwegian' here
should be surrounded by «...». This could maybe be done by a rule that says
that if a q element carries a lang attribute, the next embedded q attribute
should use the highest level quote marks. 

Or perhaps it needs some attribute to reset the levels?  (which is why this
comment is here)

In addition, maybe that would also give you more control over how the quotes
are used in other situations (such as to replicate the original text) -
although perhaps that's best achieved using special class names or just by
avoiding q altogether.

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