[I18N Core] Teleconference Minutes 2007-03-20

... are at http://www.w3.org/2007/03/20-core-minutes.html and below as text.

Felix

   [1]W3C

      [1] http://www.w3.org/

                        i18n core Working Group

20 Mar 2007

   [2]Agenda

      [2] 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2007Mar/0004.html

   See also: [3]IRC log

      [3] http://www.w3.org/2007/03/20-core-irc

Attendees

   Present
          Richard, Felix, David, Andrew

   Regrets
          Karunesh, Michael, Najib, Ram, Vijay, Mark, Greg, Francois

   Chair
          Richard

   Scribe
          Felix

Contents

     * [4]Topics
         1. [5]Welcome
         2. [6]Introductions
         3. [7]Meeting rules
         4. [8]Agenda & actions review
         5. [9]Info Share
         6. [10]Review of resource publication pipeline & process
         7. [11]Quick Tips
         8. [12]Language Declaration Best Practices
         9. [13]An Introduction to Multilingual Web Addresses, Does it
            work?
        10. [14]Last call review items & process
        11. [15]MobileOK comments
        12. [16]Comments on XML Schema from i18n
     * [17]Summary of Action Items
     _________________________________________________________

   hi najib, will you dial in ?

   <najib> Hello to everyone

   <najib> No, I'm sorry

   <fsasaki> agenda is at
   [18]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2007Mar/001
   4.html

     [18] 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2007Mar/0014.html

Welcome

   <fsasaki> Richard: welcome to the new / old core WG!

Introductions

Meeting rules

   <fsasaki> Richard: first parts of agenda are really for information
   sharing

   <fsasaki> .. if you have questions we ask it straight away

   <fsasaki> .. it it gets into discussion, we put an item on the
   agenda

Agenda & actions review

   <scribe> ACTION: Felix to make updates of LTLI taking Michaels
   feedback into account DONE [recorded in
   [19]http://www.w3.org/2007/03/20-core-minutes.html#action01]

   <fsasaki>
   [20]http://www.w3.org/International/core/langtags/#revisionlog

     [20] http://www.w3.org/International/core/langtags/#revisionlog

   <fsasaki> Felix: see the last two bullets in the change log

   <scribe> ACTION: Richard to contact Russ and others to figure out
   how IE 7 handles display of Punycode and language preference
   settings DONE [recorded in
   [21]http://www.w3.org/2007/03/20-core-minutes.html#action02]

   <fsasaki> Richard: have talked to various people, we will go on with
   the text we have

   <scribe> ACTION: all to give feedback on LTLI update ONGOING

   <scribe> ACTION: Felix to write a mail about possibility for SVG
   tiny specific IRI tests to Chris and the i18n core list

   <fsasaki> Felix: we'll handle that in the architecture group, AI
   will be dropped from core

   <fsasaki> .. the same for AI on IRIs and charmod

   <scribe> ACTION: Felix to look at the mobileOK document and send
   Richard's (and possilby more) comments about MobileOK DONE [recorded
   in [22]http://www.w3.org/2007/03/20-core-minutes.html#action05]

Info Share

   felix: mentions joint task force between i18n, CSS and XSL WGs that
   we are starting up to gather typographic reequirements wrt Japanese
   ... some invited experts about to join
   ... FTF meetings to be held regularly every few weeks in Japan in
   Japanese
   ... Felix will provide English summaries of meetings
   ... still planning scope with participating WGs
   ... next meeting next week

Review of resource publication pipeline & process

   [23]http://www.w3.org/International/2003/plan.html

     [23] http://www.w3.org/International/2003/plan.html

Quick Tips

   Finalised wording OK for new print run?

   Target: decision for next weeks call.

   [24]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-geo/2007Feb/0020
   .html

     [24] 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-geo/2007Feb/0020.html

   <fsasaki> Richard: some wording proposed as final

   <scribe> ACTION: All, look at
   [25]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-geo/2007Feb/0020
   .html and raise any comments by email before next telecon [recorded
   in [26]http://www.w3.org/2007/03/20-core-minutes.html#action06]

     [25] 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-geo/2007Feb/0020.html

Language Declaration Best Practices

   Ready for publication as a WG Note ?

   Target: decision for next weeks call.

   [27]http://www.w3.org/International/geo/html-tech/tech-lang.html

     [27] http://www.w3.org/International/geo/html-tech/tech-lang.html

   <fsasaki> Richard: had a flurry of late comments last week

   <fsasaki> .. made changes particulary in sec. 4

   <fsasaki> .. may still tweak it a little

   <fsasaki> .. Mark Davis is asking why people should worry about this

   <fsasaki> .. in sec. 2 we talk about the importance of specifying
   text processing language

   <fsasaki> .. we don't talk about the importance of meta data

   <fsasaki> .. I will create another section to say why that is
   necessary

   <scribe> ACTION: All, raise any issues with
   [28]http://www.w3.org/International/geo/html-tech/tech-lang.html#ri2
   0050208.095812479 before next telecon, so we can take a decision to
   publish as WG Note [recorded in
   [29]http://www.w3.org/2007/03/20-core-minutes.html#action07]

     [28] 
http://www.w3.org/International/geo/html-tech/tech-lang.html#ri20050208.095812479

An Introduction to Multilingual Web Addresses, Does it work?

   Ready for publication ?

   Target: decision for next weeks call.

   [30]http://www.w3.org/International/articles/idn-and-iri/temp.php#wo
   rk

     [30] http://www.w3.org/International/articles/idn-and-iri/temp.php#work

   <fsasaki> Richard: discussed it in GEO, we thought it is ready to go

   <scribe> ACTION: All, raise any issues with
   [31]http://www.w3.org/International/articles/idn-and-iri/temp.php#wo
   rk before next telecon, so we can take a decision to publish
   [recorded in
   [32]http://www.w3.org/2007/03/20-core-minutes.html#action08]

     [31] http://www.w3.org/International/articles/idn-and-iri/temp.php#work

   yes najib ?

   <najib> Firefox policy (natif URI for trusted TLD, doen't apply to
   Arabic.

   <najib> Suggest to add a line to the table of tests.

   ok, thanks najib

   <najib> That's all.

   i believe you sent an email about that, najib?

   <najib> Yes

   ok i'll do something with it

Last call review items & process

   TR list: [33]http://www.w3.org/TR/#last-call

     [33] http://www.w3.org/TR/#last-call

   Review radar: [34]http://www.w3.org/International/core/reviews.html

     [34] http://www.w3.org/International/core/reviews.html

   Past reviews list: [35]http://www.w3.org/International/reviews/

     [35] http://www.w3.org/International/reviews/

   <fsasaki> Richard: I'll read GRDDL anyway

   <fsasaki> ACTION: Felix to see if a review of
   [36]http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-XMLHttpRequest-20070227/ is
   necessary and possibly start an inital review [recorded in
   [37]http://www.w3.org/2007/03/20-core-minutes.html#action09]

     [36] http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-XMLHttpRequest-20070227/

   <fsasaki> ACTION: Felix to review
   [38]http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-xforms11-20070222/ recorded in
   [39]http://www.w3.org/2007/03/20-core-minutes.html#action10]

     [38] http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-xforms11-20070222/

   <fsasaki> ACTION: Richard to add
   [40]http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-xforms11-20070222/ to the review
   schedule [recorded in
   [41]http://www.w3.org/2007/03/20-core-minutes.html#action11]

     [40] http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-xforms11-20070222/

   <fsasaki> Richard: CSS text is not here, we could look at that

   6 March 2007: CSS Text Level 3

   [42]http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-css3-text-20070306/

     [42] http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-css3-text-20070306/

   <fsasaki> Richard: we need to intersect ASAP with this

   <fsasaki> at this point: anybody who wants to take a look at that
   and should send in comments to our list for discussion

MobileOK comments

   [43]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2007Mar/000
   9.html

     [43] 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2007Mar/0009.html

   Any more comments? Next steps?

   <fsasaki> Richard: we should stick to the standard process to send
   comments to the public list

   <fsasaki> Felix: agree, I should have sent a mail to a member list
   asking for review period extension, and later sent the comments to
   their public ML

   <fsasaki> Richard: Felix is busy with various stuff now, I'll take
   over and create a comment table on a separate page

   [44]http://www.w3.org/International/reviews/

     [44] http://www.w3.org/International/reviews/

   <fsasaki> .. you can find examples of previous reviews at the page
   above

Comments on XML Schema from i18n

   [45]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2007Mar/000
   1.html

     [45] 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2007Mar/0001.html

   <fsasaki> Felix: to look into the xml schema comments and summarize
   the possibly for our group

   <fsasaki> ACTION: Felix: to look into the xml schema comments and
   summarize the possibly for our group [recorded in
   [46]http://www.w3.org/2007/03/20-core-minutes.html#action12]

   Request for feedback from XQuery WG

   [47]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2007Mar/000
   3.html

     [47] 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2007Mar/0003.html

   full text search taskforce

   <fsasaki> Richard: In Thai, you would not eliminate spaces normally

   <fsasaki> David: also in the other South East Asian languages

   <fsasaki> .. in theory you don't have spaces between words, but
   might have zero-width spaces

   Comments on CCXML

   [48]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2007Feb/000
   4.html

     [48] 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2007Feb/0004.html

   <fsasaki> ACTION: Felix to go back to XQuery saying that there might
   be issues with various languages and we will come back to them
   [recorded in
   [49]http://www.w3.org/2007/03/20-core-minutes.html#action13]

Summary of Action Items

   [NEW] ACTION: All, look at
   [50]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-geo/2007Feb/0020
   .html and raise any comments by email before next telecon [recorded
   in [51]http://www.w3.org/2007/03/20-core-minutes.html#action06]
   [NEW] ACTION: All, raise any issues with
   [52]http://www.w3.org/International/articles/idn-and-iri/temp.php#wo
   rk before next telecon, so we can take a decision to publish
   [recorded in
   [53]http://www.w3.org/2007/03/20-core-minutes.html#action08]
   [NEW] ACTION: All, raise any issues with
   [54]http://www.w3.org/International/geo/html-tech/tech-lang.html#ri2
   0050208.095812479 before next telecon, so we can take a decision to
   publish as WG Note [recorded in
   [55]http://www.w3.org/2007/03/20-core-minutes.html#action07]
   [NEW] ACTION: Felix to go back to XQuery saying that there might be
   issues with various languages and we will come back to them
   [recorded in
   [56]http://www.w3.org/2007/03/20-core-minutes.html#action13]
   [NEW] ACTION: Felix to review
   [57]http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-xforms11-20070222/ recorded in
   [58]http://www.w3.org/2007/03/20-core-minutes.html#action10]
   [NEW] ACTION: Felix to see if a review of
   [59]http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-XMLHttpRequest-20070227/ is
   necessary and possibly start an inital review [recorded in
   [60]http://www.w3.org/2007/03/20-core-minutes.html#action09]
   [NEW] ACTION: Felix: to look into the xml schema comments and
   summarize the possibly for our group [recorded in
   [61]http://www.w3.org/2007/03/20-core-minutes.html#action12]
   [NEW] ACTION: Richard to add
   [62]http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-xforms11-20070222/ to the review
   schedule [recorded in
   [63]http://www.w3.org/2007/03/20-core-minutes.html#action11]

     [50] 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-geo/2007Feb/0020.html
     [52] http://www.w3.org/International/articles/idn-and-iri/temp.php#work
     [54] 
http://www.w3.org/International/geo/html-tech/tech-lang.html#ri20050208.095812479
     [57] http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-xforms11-20070222/
     [59] http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-XMLHttpRequest-20070227/
     [62] http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-xforms11-20070222/

   [DONE] ACTION: Felix to look at the mobileOK document and send
   Richard's (and possilby more) comments about MobileOK [recorded in
   [64]http://www.w3.org/2007/03/20-core-minutes.html#action05]
   [DONE] ACTION: Felix to make updates of LTLI taking Michaels
   feedback into account [recorded in
   [65]http://www.w3.org/2007/03/20-core-minutes.html#action01]
   [DONE] ACTION: Richard to contact Russ and others to figure out how
   IE 7 handles display of Punycode and language preference settings
   [recorded in
   [66]http://www.w3.org/2007/03/20-core-minutes.html#action02]

   [End of minutes]
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