- From: Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org>
- Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 08:45:26 +0900
- To: public-i18n-core@w3.org
... are at http://www.w3.org/2006/12/05-i18ncore-minutes.html and below
as text.
Felix
[1]W3C
[1] http://www.w3.org/
i18n core Working Group
5 Dec 2006
See also: [2]IRC log
[2] http://www.w3.org/2006/12/05-i18ncore-irc
Attendees
Present
Felix, Francois, Michael
Regrets
Richard
Chair
Francois
Scribe
Felix
Contents
* [3]Topics
1. [4]Michael - self introduction
2. [5]action items
3. [6]idna issue update
4. [7]time Ontology comments
5. [8]Charmod C064 considered unclear
6. [9]XQuery full-text search request for feedback
7. [10]LTLI
* [11]Summary of Action Items
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Michael - self introduction
Michael: interested in i18n in general and ws-i18n in specific . New
to W3C WGs
<scribe> ACTION: Felix to gather pointers for Michael about W3C in
general and i18n specific stuff (including ws i18n) [recorded in
[12]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/05-i18ncore-minutes.html#action01]
action items
action Felix to send out notes to www-international about LC reviews
(InkML and PLS) (DONE)
<scribe> ACTION: Felix to send out notes to www-international about
LC reviews (InkML and PLS) (DONE) [recorded in
[13]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/05-i18ncore-minutes.html#action02]
<scribe> ACTION: Francois to review InkML LC draft (PENDING)
[recorded in
[14]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/05-i18ncore-minutes.html#action03]
[15]http://www.w3.org/International/core/reviews
[15] http://www.w3.org/International/core/reviews
<scribe> ACTION: Richard to find out what is the canonical URI for
BCP47 (ONGOING) [recorded in
[16]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/05-i18ncore-minutes.html#action04]
see thread at
[17]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2006OctDec/
0015.html
[17] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2006OctDec/0015.html
<fyergeau> [18]http://esw.w3.org/topic/i18nLTLI
[18] http://esw.w3.org/topic/i18nLTLI
<scribe> ACTION: Felix to to classify open LTLI issues (PENDING)
[recorded in
[19]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/05-i18ncore-minutes.html#action05]
Felix: would use the wiki to collect topics, but text creation
directly in the draft
<scribe> ACTION: All to read Martins comments on IDNA issues
(PENDING) [recorded in
[20]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/05-i18ncore-minutes.html#action06]
thread at
[21]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2006Oct/001
2.html
[21] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2006Oct/0012.html
comments from Martin are available
<scribe> ACTION: Felix to write a mail about possibility for SVG
tiny specific IRI tests to martin and the i18n core list [recorded
in [22]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/05-i18ncore-minutes.html#action07]
Heard nothing from Chris Lilley
Francois: the last mail on the topic was from Martin, we are waiting
for Chris
<scribe> ACTION: Francois to build a current issues list on charmod
norm (PENDING) [recorded in
[23]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/05-i18ncore-minutes.html#action08]
<scribe> ACTION: Francois to give input to wiki for the LTLI summary
(ONGOING) [recorded in
[24]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/05-i18ncore-minutes.html#action09]
Francois: started editing this morning
<scribe> ACTION: Francois to reply to Schema WG on normalization
issue (DONE) [recorded in
[25]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/05-i18ncore-minutes.html#action10]
idna issue update
<scribe> postponed until next week
time Ontology comments
reply from Semantic web WG at
[26]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2006OctDec/
0017.html
[26] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2006OctDec/0017.html
Francois: can be fixed when entered in a time line in the ontology
... as they say. We did not have a specific suggestion to solve the
problem
... people in semantic web should do the Olson ID conversion to RDF
<scribe> ACTION: Felix to go back to the WG finally [recorded in
[27]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/05-i18ncore-minutes.html#action11]
Felix: will mention olson ID again
Charmod C064 considered unclear
see
[28]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2006OctDec/
0017.html
[28] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2006OctDec/0017.html
[29]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2006Nov/001
3.html
[29] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2006Nov/0013.html
reply from Martin
[30]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2006Nov/001
8.html
[30] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2006Nov/0018.html
Francois: agree with Martin on that
<scribe> ACTION: Felix to go back to Bjoern saying Martins mail is a
WG answer [recorded in
[31]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/05-i18ncore-minutes.html#action12]
XQuery full-text search request for feedback
original mail from Jim
[32]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2006Nov/001
2.html
[32] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2006Nov/0012.html
Felix reply at
[33]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2006Dec/000
3.html
[33] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2006Dec/0003.html
Felix: the FTLanguage Option refers only to a language tag, hence I
proposed to reference RFC 4646 and not BCP 47 as a whole
"/book[@number="1"]//editor ftcontains "salon de the"
with default stop words language "fr"
Francois: the "fr" would match to the particular implementation
options
... so we need matching
Felix: agree, and ask for a note which explains that
Francois: 3.2.6 says "It is implementation-defined what additional
language identifiers, if any, are valid. "
... in BCP 47, they should start with "x" for non-BCP 47
identifiers. So: use BCP 47, there is room for private extensions
... in the reply, we should explain the BCP 47 role as RFC 3066
sucessor work, and there is another successor on the way
Felix: on issue
[34]http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3740 : what should
happen in the case of conflicts between xml:lang and the language
option
[34] http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3740
Francois: xml:lang should have precedence - so ask for a SHOULD,
since not all implementations will have all languages available
Michael: you search a Japanese document with a french option, they
will just get no results, but maybe that's OK
Francois: parsing rules are different for languages, e.g. no spaces
in Japanese
... the implementation SHOULD obey xml:lang
... and say it is implementation-defined what languages they cover
on issue 3698, see
[35]http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/xsl-query-specs/full-text/full-text.
html#ftdiacriticsoption
[35] http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/xsl-query-specs/full-text/full-text.html#ftdiacriticsoption
Felix describes the issue
Felix: are there standardized options for diacritics in collations?
Francois: I'll have a look
<scribe> ACTION: Francois to have a look at issue 3698 and gather
information on options for diacrictics in collations [recorded in
[36]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/05-i18ncore-minutes.html#action13]
<scribe> ACTION: Felix to ask for an extension for CSS 2.1 review
[recorded in
[37]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/05-i18ncore-minutes.html#action14]
LTLI
Felix: will make a summary of the discussion at the architecture
domain f2f and make editing related to that
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: Felix to ask for an extension for CSS 2.1 review
[recorded in
[38]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/05-i18ncore-minutes.html#action14]
[NEW] ACTION: Felix to gather pointers for Michael about W3C in
general and i18n specific stuff (including ws i18n) [recorded in
[39]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/05-i18ncore-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: Felix to go back to Bjoern saying Martins mail is a WG
answer [recorded in
[40]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/05-i18ncore-minutes.html#action12]
[NEW] ACTION: Felix to go back to the WG finally [recorded in
[41]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/05-i18ncore-minutes.html#action11]
[NEW] ACTION: Felix to write a mail about possibility for SVG tiny
specific IRI tests to martin and the i18n core list [recorded in
[42]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/05-i18ncore-minutes.html#action07]
[NEW] ACTION: Francois to have a look at issue 3698 and gather
information on options for diacrictics in collations [recorded in
[43]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/05-i18ncore-minutes.html#action13]
[PENDING] ACTION: All to read Martins comments on IDNA issues
[recorded in
[44]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/05-i18ncore-minutes.html#action06]
[PENDING] ACTION: Felix to to classify open LTLI issues [recorded in
[45]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/05-i18ncore-minutes.html#action05]
[PENDING] ACTION: Francois to build a current issues list on charmod
norm [recorded in
[46]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/05-i18ncore-minutes.html#action08]
[PENDING] ACTION: Francois to give input to wiki for the LTLI
summary [recorded in
[47]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/05-i18ncore-minutes.html#action09]
[PENDING] ACTION: Francois to review InkML LC draft [recorded in
[48]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/05-i18ncore-minutes.html#action03]
[PENDING] ACTION: Richard to find out what is the canonical URI for
BCP47 [recorded in
[49]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/05-i18ncore-minutes.html#action04]
[DONE] ACTION: Felix to send out notes to www-international about LC
reviews (InkML and PLS) [recorded in
[50]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/05-i18ncore-minutes.html#action02]
[DONE] ACTION: Francois to reply to Schema WG on normalization issue
[recorded in
[51]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/05-i18ncore-minutes.html#action10]
[End of minutes]
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