- From: Najib Tounsi <ntounsi@emi.ac.ma>
- Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 11:30:24 +0000
- To: Martin Duerst <duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp>
- CC: ishida@w3.org, www-style@w3.org, public-i18n-core@w3.org
- Message-ID: <43D76150.2070505@emi.ac.ma>
Martin Duerst wrote: > > At 19:53 06/01/21, ishida@w3.org wrote: > > > >Comment from the i18n review of: > >http://www.w3.org/TR/2005/WD-css3-selectors-20051215/ > > > >Comment 21 > >At http://www.w3.org/International/reviews/0601-css3-selectors/ > >Editorial/substantive: E > >Location in reviewed document: > >Sec. 7.2 > [http://www.w3.org/TR/2005/WD-css3-selectors-20051215/#pseudo-elements] > >, last para > > > >Comment: > >It may be useful to provide an example to clarify the bidirectional > >ordering point. We could probably do that for you, if needed. > > A very simple example, using lower case (!) for RTL: > > The logical sentence: > W3C is written in latin letters in hebrew. > Is displayed as: > .werbeh ni srettel nital ni nettirw si W3C > The first letter is "W", but it appears in the middle of the line > due to reordering. > So the sytling apply to W. Example: The same style apply to the three paras. Note the first letter of an arabic word at the beginning of a latin para (2nd). Here is the sourse (http://www.w3c.org.ma/Tests/InitLetter2.html) adapted from [1] p7.2, first example. ============== <html><head> <meta content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" http-equiv="content-type"> <title>Drop cap initial letter</title> <style type="text/css"> P { font-size: 12pt; line-height: 1.2 } P::first-letter { color: red; font-weight: bold;} SPAN { text-transform: uppercase } </style></head> <body> <p><span>The first</span> few words of an article in The Economist.<br> </p> <p dir="rtl"><span>????</span> few words of an article in The Economist.<br> </p> <p dir="rtl"><span>W3C</span> ???? ????? ? ?????? ????? </p> </body></html> ============== > >Presumably, in ordinary right to left text, the user agent would be > >expected to apply the styling to the character on the right of the line. > > Of course. I don't see any problem there; the text is very > careful to always speak of 'first' rather than leftmost or > whatever letter. > > >Note that this (presumably) applies really to Hebrew but not Arabic, > since > >the latter script is cursive. > > I have a vague recollection of Arabic with letters of different size. > I hope somebody can confirm. > There is nothing in principle that would disallow making the first > letter larger (or otherwise different in style) even if the script > is cursive. Cursive don't allow (badly?) to have a first letter larger than the rest of the word. Same example Here is the source (http://www.w3c.org.ma/Tests/InitLetter.html) P::first-letter { font-size:200%; font-weight: bold;} in stead of P::first-letter { color: red; font-weight: bold;} Regards, Najib [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/2005/WD-css3-selectors-20051215/#first-letter -- Najib TOUNSI (mailto:tounsi @ w3.org) Bureau W3C au Maroc (http://www.w3c.org.ma/) Ecole Mohammadia d'Ingenieurs, BP 765 Agdal-RABAT Maroc (Morocco) Phone : +212 (0) 37 68 71 74 Fax : +212 (0) 37 77 88 53 Mobile: +212 (0) 61 22 00 30
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