- From: Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org>
- Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 11:35:44 +0900
- To: "public-i18n-core@w3.org" <public-i18n-core@w3.org>
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... are at http://www.w3.org/2006/04/04-i18ncore-minutes.html
and below as text.
- Felix
[1]W3C
[1] http://www.w3.org/
i18n core working group
4 Apr 2006
[2]Agenda
[2]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2006Apr/0009.html
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2006/04/04-i18ncore-irc
Attendees
Present
Felix, Francois, Mary, Richard
Regrets
Chair
Francois
Scribe
Felix
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]action items
2. [6]ws i18n republication schedule
3. [7]charmod resid progress
4. [8]LTLI / RFC 3066bis project review
5. [9]Voice XML and charmod (fundamentals)
6. [10]ws addressing review
7. [11]ws i18n update
8. [12]Voice XML and charmod (fundamentals)
9. [13]other business?
* [14]Summary of Action Items
_________________________________________________________
last minutes: [15]http://www.w3.org/2006/03/28-i18ncore-minutes.html
[15] http://www.w3.org/2006/03/28-i18ncore-minutes.html
action items
<scribe> ACTION: Felix to make regular call 1 hour earlier (talk to
zakim)(DONE) [recorded in
[16]http://www.w3.org/2006/04/04-i18ncore-minutes.html#action01]
<scribe> ACTION: Felix to talk to Martin on IRI tests (DONE)
[recorded in
[17]http://www.w3.org/2006/04/04-i18ncore-minutes.html#action01x]
<scribe> ACTION: Mary to look at WS Addr (PENDING) [recorded in
[18]http://www.w3.org/2006/04/04-i18ncore-minutes.html#action02]
<scribe> ACTION: felix to go trough LTLI within the next 2 weeks
(PENDING) [recorded in
[19]http://www.w3.org/2006/04/04-i18ncore-minutes.html#action03]
felix: hope to have this done next week (again)
<scribe> ACTION: Francois to build a current issues list on charmod
norm (ONGOING) [recorded in
[20]http://www.w3.org/2006/04/04-i18ncore-minutes.html#action04]
<scribe> ACTION: Mary will make the updates discussed in Mandelieu
on ws i18n (PENDING) [recorded in
[21]http://www.w3.org/2006/04/04-i18ncore-minutes.html#action05]
<scribe> ACTION: Richard to go through the xml:lang CDR review issue
(DROPPED) [recorded in
[22]http://www.w3.org/2006/04/04-i18ncore-minutes.html#action06]
ws i18n republication schedule
felix: got feedback that we should slow down publication of this
... i.e. not before May, better June
charmod resid progress
[23]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2006Apr/000
6.html
[23]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2006Apr/0006.html
Felix: mail from Martin
... we need an implementation report for resid
Richard: charmod needs implementation in specs
Francois: for resid, you have to show that browsers or servers to
the right thing
Felix: do we then have to write an implementation report?
Francois: in the resid spec, there are four requirements
... we require a test suite, but the document places requirements on
spec
... the document is just a wrapper on the IETF IRI spec
Richard: conformance criteria are just about specs
<scribe> ACTION: Felix to find out where the tests from Martin are
located [recorded in
[24]http://www.w3.org/2006/04/04-i18ncore-minutes.html#action07]
<scribe> ACTION: Felix to find out what we need in the IRI
implementation report [recorded in
[25]http://www.w3.org/2006/04/04-i18ncore-minutes.html#action08]
Francois: We did require a test suite
... what we could do is an implementation report related to specs
Felix: how many specs cite charmod resid?
Francois: they don't need to cite it, just be compliant
[[C061 [S] Specifications that define new syntax for URIs SHOULD
also define the normalization requirements for the syntax they
introduce.]]
Richard: we left that in there because we are not defining what the
normalization requirements are
... so we are fine with this
<scribe> ACTION: Felix to write an implementation report on charmod
resid [recorded in
[26]http://www.w3.org/2006/04/04-i18ncore-minutes.html#action09]
<fyergeau_> [27]http://www.w3.org/2004/11/charmod-implementation/
[27] http://www.w3.org/2004/11/charmod-implementation/
LTLI / RFC 3066bis project review
Felix: I asked Addison if he could participate in a project review
about RFC 3066bis
Richard: when will he do that?
Felix: in the next months
Richard: we have to figure out some things
... and it should be after the matching part is finalized
... I am writing s.t. about the first part part of RFC 3066bis
... for the www conference, and to put on the i18n site
Voice XML and charmod (fundamentals)
ws addressing review
mary: I'll get to it this afternoon
ws i18n update
mary: It looks like it makes sense
... it will not be a 100 page document (like the security document)
Voice XML and charmod (fundamentals)
[28]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2006Apr/000
5.html
[28]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2006Apr/0005.html
[29]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2006Apr/001
1.html
[29]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2006Apr/0011.html
Richard: I don't understand the DTMF part
<r12a> i don't think *Max* understands the DTMF part
Francois: there seems to be some misunderstanding
[[Here's an analysis of why I recommend we do not mandate nor
recomment compliance to CharMod Fundamentals in VoiceXML2.1.
]]
<scribe> ACTION: everybody to look at the mail at
[30]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2006Apr/001
1.html [recorded in
[31]http://www.w3.org/2006/04/04-i18ncore-minutes.html#action10]
[30]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2006Apr/0011.html
<scribe> ACTION: Felix ask Max if he can join next week's i18n core
call [recorded in
[32]http://www.w3.org/2006/04/04-i18ncore-minutes.html#action11]
Richard: what will the TAG discuss?
Karl's tag action item:
[[Karl to bring to the TAG the relationship between charmod and
XML as large and its implications on specification development
]]
[[The question seems to be if all future Technologies defined in W3C
Specifications MUST conform or not to Charmod.
A related question is for the specifications themselves.
]]
Richard: the tag question is a general question, different from Max'
issues
... as we developed charmod, we had something in the conformance
section saying "all new W3C specs MUST refer to it"
... Tim and others pushed back, so we took that out
... in the hope that other specs would refer to charmod
... Francois, is this the result?
Francois: I don't recall anything else
<r12a> [33]http://www.w3.org/TR/webarch/
[33] http://www.w3.org/TR/webarch/
[34]http://www.w3.org/TR/webarch/#no-charset
[34] http://www.w3.org/TR/webarch/#no-charset
Richard: that means "don't look at the http header"
Francois: that stuff breaks all the time
<r12a> correction: that means "don't declare the encoding in the
http header for xhtml"
<scribe> ACTION: all to look at the TAG issue, and intercept Karl
[recorded in
[35]http://www.w3.org/2006/04/04-i18ncore-minutes.html#action12]
Felix: should we take over from Karl?
Richard: I don't think so
... it will take some time from us
... we should not make a huge deal of it
other business?
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: all to look at the TAG issue, and intercept Karl
[recorded in
[36]http://www.w3.org/2006/04/04-i18ncore-minutes.html#action12]
[NEW] ACTION: everybody to look at the mail at
[37]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2006Apr/001
1.html [recorded in
[38]http://www.w3.org/2006/04/04-i18ncore-minutes.html#action10]
[NEW] ACTION: Felix ask Max if he can join next week's i18n core
call [recorded in
[39]http://www.w3.org/2006/04/04-i18ncore-minutes.html#action11]
[NEW] ACTION: Felix to find out what we need in the IRI
implementation report [recorded in
[40]http://www.w3.org/2006/04/04-i18ncore-minutes.html#action08]
[NEW] ACTION: Felix to find out where the tests from Martin are
located [recorded in
[41]http://www.w3.org/2006/04/04-i18ncore-minutes.html#action07]
[NEW] ACTION: Felix to write an implementation report on charmod
resid [recorded in
[42]http://www.w3.org/2006/04/04-i18ncore-minutes.html#action09]
[PENDING] ACTION: felix to go trough LTLI within the next 2 weeks
[recorded in
[43]http://www.w3.org/2006/04/04-i18ncore-minutes.html#action03]
[PENDING] ACTION: Francois to build a current issues list on charmod
norm [recorded in
[44]http://www.w3.org/2006/04/04-i18ncore-minutes.html#action04]
[PENDING] ACTION: Mary to look at WS Addr [recorded in
[45]http://www.w3.org/2006/04/04-i18ncore-minutes.html#action02]
[PENDING] ACTION: Mary will make the updates discussed in Mandelieu
on ws i18n [recorded in
[46]http://www.w3.org/2006/04/04-i18ncore-minutes.html#action05]
[DONE] ACTION: Felix to make regular call 1 hour earlier (talk to
zakim) [recorded in
[47]http://www.w3.org/2006/04/04-i18ncore-minutes.html#action01]
[DONE] ACTION: Felix to talk to Martin on IRI tests (DONE) [recorded
in [48]http://www.w3.org/2006/04/04-i18ncore-minutes.html#action01x]
[DROPPED] ACTION: Richard to go through the xml:lang CDR review
issue [recorded in
[49]http://www.w3.org/2006/04/04-i18ncore-minutes.html#action06]
[End of minutes]
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