- From: KOBAYASHI Tatsuo(FAMILY Given) <tlk@kobysh.com>
- Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 10:56:35 +0900
- To: Koji Ishii <kojiishi@gluesoft.co.jp>
- Cc: IKEDA Soji <ikeda@conversion.co.jp>, "public-i18n-cjk@w3.org" <public-i18n-cjk@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CAHKerJu-QSmqoXJ+uCgaz8--MxCccs-gpiKKcYhOwJzSadXn2g@mail.gmail.com>
Mr. Ikeda, Japanese team of JLTF decided to modify both Japanese and English text a little bit to the things more clear with your comment and Ishii-san's suggestion. Thank you very much for your comment. 2012/2/7 Koji Ishii <kojiishi@gluesoft.co.jp> > While I understand what you said, I think both usages exist, so "almost > incorrect" is too much. > > > In professional printings, upright characters often keep their > proportional glyphs, > > and are placed onto one em square spacing. > > I agree that some authors prefer such styles, especially when full-width > glyphs in fonts weren't good quality. But recent fonts have improved the > quality of full-width alpha-numeric glyphs and also they tend to have the > same glyph, just with different widths. With such fonts, I think authors > tend to prefer full-width glyphs for upright characters. See a capture from > Mac Fan magazine[1]. > > > Characters of their own may not have extended (fullwidth) glyphs. > > That's correct, but again, recent fonts have OpenType 'fwid' feature for > code points that do not have full-width code points, so the problem you > pointed out are gradually resolved. > > That says, while there are cases you pointed out is correct, there are > cases the current text is correct too. > > In Japanese version, it says "in general" but it's missing in English > text. Adding that could resolve your concern, or adding "both usages exist" > might work better. > > [1] http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css3-writing-modes/#fig-mac > > Regards, > Koji > > -----Original Message----- > From: IKEDA Soji [mailto:ikeda@conversion.co.jp] > Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 9:11 PM > To: public-i18n-cjk@w3.org > Subject: [jlreq] Comment to WD-20111129 > > Section 3.2.3 "Mixed Text Composition in Vertical Writing Mode": > a. > | Full-width glyphs are specified for Latin letters and European > | numerals in this style. > > This is almost incorret. In professional printings, upright characters > often keep their proportional glyphs, and are placed onto one em square > spacing. Characters of their own may not have extended (fullwidth) glyphs. > > Please compare Latin letters ("G", "D" and "P") in figures 3.41 and 3.42 > of current working draft. > > Also, please consult JIS X 4051:2004, note of 4.7 (b). > > Regards, > > -- > 株式会社 コンバージョン セキュリティ&OSSソリューション部 池田荘児 > 〒231-0004 神奈川県横浜市中区元浜町3-21-2 ヘリオス関内ビル7F > e-mail support@conversion.co.jp TEL 045-640-3550 > http://www.conversion.co.jp/ > > > > -- KOBAYASHI Tatsuo(小林龍生) Scholex Co., Ltd. Yokohama homepage) http://www.kobysh.com/tlk/
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