Re: [i18n-drafts] [questions/qa-upright-counters-in-vertical] The example looks unnatural (#621)

Here is a rough translation of Kobayashi Toshi's comment above.

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I think kidayasuo's point is correct.

When numbers are used for vertically typeset clause numbers, Chinese numerals and Arabic numerals are mainly used, but it seems that Arabic numerals are used more often recently.

There are four main combinations of numbers, punctuation, and parentheses.

1. Only numbers (generally, whether Chinese numerals or Arabic numerals, there is a full-width space after them)

2. Use numbers in parentheses, numbers in circles, etc. (generally, there is a solid space after numbers, but there are also examples where a full-width space is used)

3. Put parentheses before and after numbers (not to the left or right of the numbers) (there are some examples where a half-space is left after parentheses, but a full-width space is often used, especially in notes)

4. Put punctuation after numbers

For Chinese numerals, a comma (、) is used as the punctuation after numbers (there are probably no examples of using a full-width circle (。)). For Arabic numerals, there are examples where a comma is used and examples where a period is used. In many cases, periods are placed below the numbers, not next to them (although I do occasionally see examples where they are placed next to them). While periods are often used these days, they were rarely used in the past (periods are not originally used in vertical writing).

If I were to choose a note, I would use the format shown in Figure 249 of JLReq. Figure 249
(No space before) Parentheses + Arabic numerals in horizontal-vertical text + Parentheses + full-width space after + body of note, 2x double bottom brackets for the second and subsequent lines.

In this format, only the numbers are placed above, making them distinct, and if you delete the numbers, the second line of the note will be full-width bottom brackets compared to the first line (you can set the line length of the first and second and subsequent lines of the note to an integer multiple of the character size).

Note that in bulleted lists, method 2 is also often used, especially numbers in circles.

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