- From: Ícaro Medeiros <icaro.medeiros@gmail.com>
- Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2014 21:07:38 -0300
- To: Markus Lanthaler <markus.lanthaler@gmx.net>
- Cc: public-hydra@w3.org
- Message-ID: <CAEOY+bvKFf0OO2j909xV=D-Dp=vz0BbbGfKeBUnbFEeS48q66w@mail.gmail.com>
Hello everybody, My two cents on RDF vs. Linked Data ------------------------------------------------------- I have a dream and this is the best community to create a new MO when writing specs for this dream to come true: formal defined unambiguous RFCs. Parenthesis mean nothing. Ok, Linked Data (and Semantic Web) is more of a vision/buzzword than a RFC, but it is interesting how loose definitions go a long way, confusing possible adopters. I completely agree with Erik about merging communities rather than pitching technology. I believe listening to REST community will be nice for SemWeb people, a community that already has some kind of conflict between "AI/Logics people" vs "Web people". Survey on Hypermedia APIs ----------------------------------------- I will try to inspect several specs for hypermedia/HATEOAS, such as HAL, JSON schema and JSON-LD and try to define some dimensions to evaluate them: ease of use, expressiveness vs orthogonality, serialization (clearly a big win for JSON here), level of adoption, and so on. This is an ongoing work in its *first baby steps*. BTW, I will love to hear some feedback about it. Maybe there are some specs I'm missing, for example. *Disclaimer* I'm trying to focus on recent specs based on JSON and HATEOAS. I believe that's what Markus calls as 3rd generation Web APIs in his dissertation [1]. [1] http://www.markus-lanthaler.com/research/third-generation-web-apis-bridging-the-gap-between-rest-and-linked-data.pdf On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 5:54 PM, Markus Lanthaler <markus.lanthaler@gmx.net> wrote: > On 5 Aug 2014 at 17:34, Ruben Verborgh wrote: > > > So I tried to start the rewrite in another branch, but I got stuck. > > (https://github.com/HydraCG/Specifications/commit/1d22c5360) > > > > I tried to follow this: > > > >> Maybe it would be more straightforward to explain it the other way > round: > >> - documents are in natural language > >> - machines are bad in understanding natural language > >> - machines prefer structured data using unambiguous identifiers > >> - the Web uses URLs* as identifiers > >> - RDF allows data to be expressed in a machine-processable way by > >> leveraging URLs > >> (- RDF expresses data in the form of triples) -- could be omitted > >> - RDF can be serialized in various formats such as JSON-LD, HTML+RDFa, > >> orTurtle > > > > I got stuck, because I wanted to arrive at "Linked Data" > > but I end up at "RDF". > > At the moment, it seems the old direction was clearer. > > What about > > "Machines prefer structured data using unambiguous identifiers, > and on the Web, these identifiers are URLs." > > ... Linked Data combines these two things* to make it easier for machines > to > process and integrate data from different sources. RDF formalizes a > triple-based data model that can be used to publish Linked Data in various > formats such as ... > > * using a better term for "things" > > > >>>>> By publishing Linked Data [LINKED-DATA], > >>>>> we enable automated clients to consume information. > >> > >> [.] > >> > >> If it doesn't add anything, just leave it out. > > > > This sentence (at the moment) introduces Linked Data, > > so it is quite crucial. How about: > > > > By publishing Linked Data [LINKED-DATA], > > enable automated clients can interpret information. > > maybe augmented with > > > > , by relying on URLs as universal identifiers. > > See my suggestion above. I'm also fine with your proposal here. > > > HTH, > Markus > > > -- > Markus Lanthaler > @markuslanthaler > > > -- Atenciosamente, Ícaro Medeiros. -------------------------------- (+55 21 2483 6928 / +55 21 98327 0069) Senior Software Developer @ Globo.com (Semantics Team) PhD Candidate @ *Pontifical Catholic University* of Rio de Janeiro ( www.inf.puc-rio.br) MSc @ Federal University of Pernambuco (www.cin.ufpe.br) BSc @ Federal University of Alagoas (www.ic.ufal.br <http://www.ufal.br/>) -| @icaromedeiros <http://twitter.com/icaromedeiros> | github.com/icaromedeiros |- == Scientia Vincere Tenebras ==
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