Re: Global Digital Compact - Your online participation to the Internet Governance Deep Dive, 13 April

Corrections:

1. The correct link re: vint is [3]
2. The last point about personal/ Private Human Centric AI systems &
wealthier people; was intended to note that the circumstances are different
for others, either temporarily (ie: change in life circumstances) and/or
regionally, worldwide, who exist in circumstances that may well (it is
hoped) will improve overtime.

On Tue, 11 Apr 2023, 6:57 pm Timothy Holborn, <timothy.holborn@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Paul, Jerome, et.al.
>
> On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 at 17:08, Paul Werbos <paul.werbos@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi, Tim! I submitted registration but it is April 11 4pm here in Japan,
>> and I don't know how this will work. I use a cellphone here.
>>
>> As you know, the role of AGI, cyber security and new quantum technology
>> are absolutely essential to mapping the choices and dilemmas here, and it
>> would be hard to fill the gaps they face. But maybe you and Jerry could
>> fill in, with me helping from a distance.
>>
>> THIS week I am hoping for Google to fill in, but for now that is just a
>> hope.
>>
>
> Mei Lin Fung is a participant, perhaps Vint could help (nb: note[1])?
> idk.  another option might be jerome??  not sure.
>
> there is a guide on how to engage[1]; and whilst the experience is
> entirely new to me, as such i'm learning on my feet about 'interventions',
> etiquette and conventions of how these sorts of activities are engaged
> with, noting also - i suspect the influence of remote participation, brings
> about emerging challenges and opportunities for all generally.
> interventions are limited to 3 minutes.
>
> With respect to my capacities generally,
>
> I'm still working through the preparatory process for supporting the
> structural foundations for the W3C Human Centric AI CG[2] apparatus, and I
> encourage you to join.   My intention is to support a facilitative
> environment where the views of all members can be heard, taken into
> consideration by others involved; and that in-turn, the activities elected
> to be taken-up by the group, becomes defined by group members.  Sadly, it
> appears now in 2023, these works cannot happen fast enough, whilst also
> very deeply considerate of the importance of the practice method,
> irrespective of competing demands.
>
> The session on the 13th is stated to focus upon: Thematic Deep-Dive -
> Internet governance.  the letter[3] states that vint is one of the
> briefers...
>
> I am of the assumption that the best way I can participate in this session
> is as an observer - whilst improving my commentary via the chat in the
> remote system - taking into account past mistakes!
>
> The two or three, intertwined issues that i am currently working through;
> all relate to human rights related considerations, however the permutations
> of how those considerations are in-turn being fashioned into something,
> that i hope may evolve into useful derivative artifacts / embodiments; that
> somewhat relates also to; how we seek to define - Artificial General
> Intelligence, as may be distinct from say, Artificial General [stupidity |
> psychosis]?  Basically, the concept being - to form an associative
> methodology with values, to the notion of [artificial general]
> 'intelligence', as to consider the qualia of objective purpose, as may
> in-turn be measured via a matrix, that may employ the virtues defined in UN
> Instruments[4]; as a guide or means to form indicators, etc...
>
> There are some who speak of the concern that AGI will eliminate all the
> jobs - but when i look at the circumstances of the world, and what we need
> to figure out how to do to transformationally improve our biosphere,
> sociosphere and circumstances for all members of our human family
> throughout our world, i do not see how 'agi' could possibly 'do all the
> jobs', however i can see how AGI might act to competitively seek to take /
> exploit / be the economic beneficiary of, many peoples work - who may
> in-turn be engendered to exist somehow without socio-economic support
> infrastructure, as may otherwise be supported should online systems act to
> eradicate digital slavery, in the many constituencies of the very broad
> problem, but including in particular - ensuring people are able to be
> paid-fairly for useful works, and then ideally also - not necessarily paid
> in perpetuity - particularly for useful works relating to derivatives of
> importance for fostering basic human rights / SDGs, etc.  AFAIK, USPTO is
> not intending to recind support for priority dates, so whatever the values
> are - how do we ensure support for them, fairly... and what safety
> protocols are required - imo; that's a big one...
>
> The works for these sorts of considerations - I do not consider to be
> developed well-enough yet, to better articulate in a manner that best
> expresses the well intended purpose, without empowering confusion or
> dialogue / tactical engagement intended to engender unwanted confusion.
>
> Nonetheless,
>
> There are two constituencies of these considerations, that i am focused
> upon; which i consider relavent to governance and human rights.
>
> The first, relates to 'digital justice systems' including but not limited
> to, digital prison systems, which in-turn seemingly expands considerations
> about the qualities of digital social security systems, alongside various
> other use-cases.  This in-turn also appends former works on 'safety
> protocols' and in-turn, analysis of 'social attack vectors'[5].  These
> works are still early and incomplete; but somewhat more progressed than was
> earlier the case.  Coupled to that work, as to produce the means to form a
> guide; that supports, like a tender response, how to analyse whether a
> solution provides fit for purpose support to address various human rights
> related considerations - as well as, the fashioning of those instruments -
> at this stage, for illustrative purposes rather than iterative / exacting;
> to point out how they could be adapted to better support how we form and
> manage our relationships with one-another, inter-juristictionally, etc...
> therein the consideration being the employment of universally
> shared-values[7], to improve our means to mediate 'fairness' between
> one-another - not as may otherwise be enforced upon people, exclusively by
> authorities; but rather, providing the option - for people to express the
> values that they are personally committed to upholding - because they
> choose to - empowering the means for people seeking to gain wisdom, in a
> life pursuit of seeking to act honourably, to be furnished the capacity to
> be better equipped for affirmations, of that commitment; rather, than
> having to be sworn to act in a particular way at particular times, because
> of circumstances otherwise being an exception to the rule.   therein,
> diversity of options about how to support different ecosystems - which may
> not be universally applied, but if they are to be equipped to exist at all
> - then, there must be interoperability support - which, may in-turn be
> better equipped to be defined via the lens of seeking to ensure
> rationalisation of how to form appropriate 'digital prison' systems; and
> related considerations, as required for other online platform providers to
> have some sort of specification (social and technical) that they may
> support, if they choose to; or if juristictions require them to otherwise.
>
> An illustrative example: re - "values credentials"
>
> I asked ChatGPT 4: "Define Freedom of Thought"
>
> ChatGPT 4: Response,
>
>
> *"Freedom of thought, also known as the right to freedom of thought,
> conscience, and belief, is a fundamental human right that refers to the
> freedom of an individual to hold and develop personal beliefs, opinions,
> and ideas without coercion, interference, or restriction from any external
> source or authority. This freedom encompasses the right to change one's
> beliefs, to freely explore different religious or philosophical systems,
> and to express those beliefs privately or publicly, within the limits of
> the law and respect for the rights of others.Freedom of thought is
> protected under various international human rights instruments, such as
> Article 18 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights (UDHR) and Article
> 18 of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR),
> which affirm the right to freedom of thought, conscience, and religion.
> This right is closely related to other fundamental freedoms, such as
> freedom of speech, freedom of expression, and freedom of assembly, as it
> often serves as the basis for these other rights."*
>
> Now therefore;  noting 'the parties' refers to entities identified in an
> electronic contract, that may relate to social connections online - or many
> other forms of use-cases, as may in-turn be employed in many different
> languages; employing internationally supported translations, etc.
>
> *UDHR Article 18*
> "Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion;
> this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom,
> either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to
> manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and
> observance."
>
> *As Modified for Electronic Contracts?*
> *The Parties* Shall Respect one another's right to freedom of thought,
> conscience and religion; including the freedom of a party to change their
> religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others
> and in public or private, to manifest their religion or belief in teaching,
> practice, worship and observance.
>
>
> *ICCPR Article 18 - ORIGINAL*1. Everyone shall have the right to freedom
> of thought, conscience and religion. This right shall include freedom to
> have or to adopt a religion or belief of his choice, and freedom, either
> individually or in community with others and in public or private, to
> manifest his religion or belief in worship, observance, practice and
> teaching.
> 2. No one shall be subject to coercion which would impair his freedom to
> have or to adopt a religion or belief of his choice.
> 3. Freedom to manifest one's religion or beliefs may be subject only to
> such limitations as are prescribed by law and are necessary to protect
> public safety, order, health, or morals or the fundamental rights and
> freedoms of others.
> 4. The States Parties to the present Covenant undertake to have respect
> for the liberty of parents and, when applicable, legal guardians to ensure
> the religious and moral education of their children in conformity with
> their own convictions.
>
> *ICCPR Article 18 - an illustration of my thoughts on how they may
> be Modified for Electronic Contracts?*
> *The Parties* shall respect one another's right to freedom of thought,
> conscience and religion. This shall include freedom to have or to adopt a
> religion or belief of his choice, and freedom, either individually or in
> community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or
> belief in worship, observance, practice and teaching.
>
> *The Parties* agree not to engage in behaviour that has the intended
> purpose of subjecting a party to coercion which would impair his freedom to
> have or to adopt a religion or belief of his choice.
>
> *The Parties* agree to conscientiously support one another's freedom to
> manifest one's religion or beliefs, as may be subject only to such
> limitations as are prescribed by law and are necessary to protect public
> safety, order, health, or morals or the fundamental rights and freedoms of
> others.
>
> *The parties* undertake to have respect for the liberty of parents and,
> when applicable, legal guardians to ensure the religious and moral
> education of their children in conformity with their own convictions.
>
>
> _______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
>
> In summary, the complexities involving ensuring support for refugees, rule
> of law and the many other constituencies that are noted in various
> values-frameworks, including but not limited to UN Instruments[4], are
> thought able to be adapted for use as part of how to measure progress with
> respect both to human rights and in-turn also, the SDGs, etc...  I did
> start work on this some years ago, but it appears to me that other
> priorities must have been considered more important, given the volume of
> work that still needs to be done - but at least, i'm trying to do so[6].
>
> AND - importantly also - note the work that has been done earlier by
> Unicode[8]
>
> Finally,
>
> With respect to 'digital prisons', the implication is - that if an
> offender, who is subject to actions taken by an online platform provider -
> due to an allegation, or something that has occurred; then, there needs to
> be somewhere to send that persons 'account', save circumstances where
> platforms (and indeed also, automated / 'ai' decision makers) becomes
> judge, jury and jailer / executioner; in ways, that may not permit the
> data-subject means to seek lawful remedy and/or a reliable copy of the
> information that relates to the incident.  In other cases, people may be
> attacked and need to alert authorities in their local juristiction to act -
> who in-turn need the evidence.  In yet other examples, persons who are
> imprisoned in the real-world, as a consequence of a lawful judgement by a
> court of law - how do they retain access to their 'digital life', whilst
> serving their sentence / debt to society?  other use-cases include; victims
> of crime, witness protection, VIPs / PEPs and in-turn also, refugees...
>
> "The Data Transfer Project was launched in 2018 to create an open-source,
> service-to-service data portability platform so that all individuals across
> the web could easily move their data between online service providers
> whenever they want."[9]
>
> Yet, to the best of my knowledge; where these tools are employed, the
> consequence becomes that the systems are effectively non-functional.  SO,
> the 'addressbook' and communications functions built into platforms, are
> part of the platform; non-transferrable.  This appears to become more
> complicated when considering the qualities of LLM like systems / models,
> where, i'm not at all sure how they could be made portable.  as such,
> perhaps this feed into the agent labelling[10] requirements? noting that
> link is both draft, and originally intended for different forum /
> purposes...
>
> overall; As even prisoners have rights[10] - if part of the governance
> GDC[1] process seeks to define what rights prisoners have, or in-effect
> form international discourse about how to improve digital justice systems
> for people suspected, alledged and/or convicted of crime, then the
> implication also thereby infers,
>
> A means to support freedom of thought and the rights of persons who have
> committed no crime, alongside the means for people to prosecute should they
> be falsely accused and/or subject to interference and/or wrongs; in a
> manner that is disproportionate and/or, considered to be of a kind that be
> reasonably considered by a court of law, as to form a determination and
> therefore also, consequences...  This in-turn, seems to me - to be
> contributory work, supporting progress in areas many have sought to
> progress, notably including Tim Berners-Lee's Call for a Magna Carta for
> the Web[12], UNESCOs Gabriela Ramos on how to build the rule of law in the
> digital world[13], and in-turn the Web-Foundation / GDC remarks[14].
> Noting, that from a W3C related perspective, Solid - has a group[15] and i
> think, likely to be amongst the best candidates to provide a specification
> of how to addresss some of these very important issues, but that also - I
> personally view Human Centric AI to be a distinct category of AI Agents,
> amongst the many[16].  Whilst i've started drafting a doc, to put out a
> call to action, to seek to define what Human Centric AI[17] should mean;
> there will nonetheless, be different structures, systems and ideologies,
> therein, whilst being mindful of this consideration - the question that i
> am more focused on, is what the requirements for Human Centric AI
> specifically might be, as to ensure users are able to migrate between
> systems, and various other requirements - fundamentally associated to
> support for human rights, including but not limited to, circumstances where
> a person seeks or is required to migrate between systems, and what sorts of
> interoperability requirements exist otherwise, to support 'social web'
> (more broadly also, internet overall) systems requirements.  noting
> finally, that earlier 'human centric' related works, have already yeilded a
> variety of platforms, some of which can be found via Galleries | MyData
> Awards 2023 <https://apply.mydata.org/gallery>[18] and that there are
> today solutions for persons with means in wealthy nations, to have private
> 'Human Centric AI' systems for their personal lives, as well as at
> work[19]; which is somewhat like the NeXT[20] systems, but whilst the
> implications of semantics was noted by TimBL in 1994[21] - it seems,
> there's still alot to do.
>
> Hope this helps!
>
> Timothy Holborn
>
> *LINKS:*
> [1]
> https://www.un.org/techenvoy/sites/www.un.org.techenvoy/files/Global-Digital-Compact_how-to-engage-guide.pdf
> [2] https://www.w3.org/community/humancentricai/
> [3]
> https://www.un.org/techenvoy/sites/www.un.org.techenvoy/files/CoFacilitators-letter_GDC-thematic_deep_dive_13_April.pdf
>
> [4] https://www.ohchr.org/en/instruments-listings
> [5]
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/10exQ8MIJnSWo2YSPJp8gUTpAz1ClcL16RgmrsOiI7uQ/edit#
>
> [6]
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17WfvOyoVQDv8wwPYroX6xrKLM7n3stD9vFv4rejqmo8/edit#
>
> [7]
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJ2vr2YnSGA&list=PLCbmz0VSZ_voTpRK9-o5RksERak4kOL40&index=40
>
> [8] https://github.com/unicode-org/udhr/tree/main/data/udhr
> [9] https://datatransferproject.dev/
> [10]
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KwMdyGDPZ-9NZS8EyCreDKf-Px81w0ADZEokKNHZAJw/edit#
>
> [11] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRGhrYmUjU4
> [12] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCplocVemjo
> [13] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXZanRQf3HM
> [14] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeqbLksgcGE
> [15] https://www.w3.org/community/solid/
> [16]
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11P5X3al6DlFULOPU3w9-eeoDEyLqYmgqmsDm0U2wgsU/edit#
>
> [17]
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sQCIjPlKySqj4Dza5wWMzEFpCft2OaqJahC4XO6V9WA/edit#
>
> [18] https://apply.mydata.org/gallery
> [19] https://lambdalabs.com/gpu-workstations/vector
> [20] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w55KZfj0DqU
> [21] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkjyCPuTKPw
>
>
>
>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 11, 2023, 3:54 PM Timothy Holborn <timothy.holborn@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> FYI: If you would like to participate, the registration link can be
>>> found via;
>>> https://www.un.org/techenvoy/global-digital-compact/intergovernmental-process#_blank
>>>
>>>
>>> RE: below, I have removed the access details to the session, which will
>>> be sent to you if you successfully register (perhaps, in-time, idk).
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Timothy Holborn.
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>>> Subject: Global Digital Compact - Your online participation to the
>>> Internet Governance Deep Dive, 13 April
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