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Minutes: HTML bug triage call 04/14/16

From: John Foliot <john.foliot@deque.com>
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2016 10:05:18 -0500
To: <tink@tink.uk>, "'HTML WG'" <public-html@w3.org>
Message-ID: <015901d1965f$0f25cc90$2d7165b0$@deque.com>
The minutes from this call can be found at:
https://www.w3.org/2016/04/14-html-minutes.html

As well as below:



HTML Bug Triage
14 Apr 2016

See also: IRC log
Attendees

Present
    janina, chaals, Katie_Haritos-Shea, JF
Regrets
Chair
    SV_MEETING_CHAIR
Scribe
    JF

Contents

    Topics
        13734
    Summary of Action Items
    Summary of Resolutions

<scribe> scribe: JF

CMN: will chew through bugs. Starting at bug 13734
13734

<chaals> new input types and accessibility

statement that new inputs must be accessible

CMN there is no specific input noted in this bug, although chaals notes a
related bug on date

resolved as invalid

https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13736

the @requried attribute and a11y

CMN: close qs invalid - sames as previous (generic comment with no specific
bug attached)

https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13737

CMN: close as invalid - sames as previous (generic comment with no specific
bug attached)

KHS: all of these are coming from Vetrans Admin, thye just wanted to be sure
they were all accessible

CMN: agreed, but these are generic comments with nothing specific to do

https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=137378

https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13738

CMN: checking the spec now...

<chaals> seems to be fixed, as Hixie said.

VErified fixed

https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13739

CMN: suspect we can pass this to the Editors (GitHub)

<scribe> ACTION: Chaals to forward bug 13739 to the Editors [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2016/04/14-html-minutes.html#action01]

https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=18245

<scribe> ACTION: Chaals to forward bug 18245 to the Tab Panel folks
[recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/04/14-html-minutes.html#action02]

https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=18385

CMN: there are specific items that can do this, but nothing generic

not sure if we will get such a generic thing - aria-describedat was hopiing
to do that, but it's not happening now

CMN: we should resolve as Wont Fix and note that specific methods exist
today

https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=18450

Discussion on this item - seems like authoring guidance issue

CMN: checking to see about a screen capture API (maybe?)
... the pooint would be to provide a serialization of the DOM

Looking in alt-techniques stuff - it's editorial, but not not-useful

JS: forward to EO - believe there is a grant for editorial work there

<chaals> the people working on the tutorials don't want to do this

CMN: what if we raise an issue on GitHub

<scribe> ACTION: Chaals to raise this as an issue on GitHub (bug 18450)
[recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/04/14-html-minutes.html#action03]

https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=19159

CMN: this talks about the use of @hidden and tab panels. It appears assigned
to Steve Faulkner - perhaps ping him

<scribe> ACTION: Chaals to forward to STeve [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2016/04/14-html-minutes.html#action04]

https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20987

CMN: assigned to Steve F. Chaals will ping him on this as well

https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=22777

<scribe> ACTION: Chaals to address bug 22777 [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2016/04/14-html-minutes.html#action05]

https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=22852

CMN: will ping Steve F on this as well

https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=22854

CMN: same as previous

https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=22929

CMN: does not appear to be an HTML bug, (but then again...?)

https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=23027

CMN: looks like an ARIA API issue
... also appears to be fixed

<scribe> ACTION: Chaals to assign #23027 to Steve F, move to APIs [recorded
in http://www.w3.org/2016/04/14-html-minutes.html#action06]

https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=23347

JF: I agree with James here

CMN: yes, looking to find it in the spec

<chaals> fix the sentence at the end of this section.

<chaals> JF: What is implementation going to be like?

JF: have browsers already implemented this as -1 instead of undefined?

CMN: anyone interestd in testing this?

<scribe> ACTION: Chaals will test the implementation related to bug #23347.
If James is right we make the change, else we don't [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2016/04/14-html-minutes.html#action07]

JS: Might be able to help test this

CMN: we need to test to see what is reported when tab index is not
specified: expect value of "undefined" and not "-1"
... test and report back
... doing live testing now
... Firefox, Blink (and alledgedly Safari - cannot test) do what James
claims. We need tomake the change

<scribe> ACTION: Chaals will make a change to the spec to reflect that James
was correct in Bug 23347 [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2016/04/14-html-minutes.html#action08]

https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=23389

JF: this seems related to a question just raised by Cynthia about a week
ago.

<scribe> ACTION: JF to investigate bug 23389, and resolve [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2016/04/14-html-minutes.html#action09]

https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=23616

CMN: already assigned to Chaals

https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=23871

is a featurre request - looking for somebody to take this

https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=24860

CMN: Editorial that I can do

<scribe> ACTION: Chaals to address editorial issue in bug 24860 [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2016/04/14-html-minutes.html#action10]

https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=25881

CMN: issue already open on this

https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=25886

<scribe> ACTION: Chaals to address editorial issue in bug 25886 [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2016/04/14-html-minutes.html#action11]

https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=27787

CMN: this is a real work bug - needs research and somebody to write up a
proposal

<scribe> ACTION: JF to investigate and report on bug 27787 [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2016/04/14-html-minutes.html#action12]

https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=27913

CMN: believe this is fixed... (maybe?)

<scribe> ACTION: Chaals to follow up on bug 27913 [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2016/04/14-html-minutes.html#action13]

CMN: that the list done
... thanks all
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: Chaals to address bug 22777 [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2016/04/14-html-minutes.html#action05]
[NEW] ACTION: Chaals to address editorial issue in bug 24860 [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2016/04/14-html-minutes.html#action10]
[NEW] ACTION: Chaals to address editorial issue in bug 25886 [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2016/04/14-html-minutes.html#action11]
[NEW] ACTION: Chaals to assign #23027 to Steve F, move to APIs [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2016/04/14-html-minutes.html#action06]
[NEW] ACTION: Chaals to follow up on bug 27913 [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2016/04/14-html-minutes.html#action13]
[NEW] ACTION: Chaals to forward bug 13739 to the Editors [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2016/04/14-html-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: Chaals to forward bug 18245 to the Tab Panel folks [recorded
in http://www.w3.org/2016/04/14-html-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: Chaals to forward to STeve [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2016/04/14-html-minutes.html#action04]
[NEW] ACTION: Chaals to raise this as an issue on GitHub (bug 18450)
[recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/04/14-html-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: Chaals will make a change to the spec to reflect that James
was correct in Bug 23347 [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2016/04/14-html-minutes.html#action08]
[NEW] ACTION: Chaals will test the implementation related to bug #23347. If
James is right we make the change, else we don't [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2016/04/14-html-minutes.html#action07]
[NEW] ACTION: JF to investigate and report on bug 27787 [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2016/04/14-html-minutes.html#action12]
[NEW] ACTION: JF to investigate bug 23389, and resolve [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2016/04/14-html-minutes.html#action09]
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