- From: Nils Dagsson Moskopp <nils@dieweltistgarnichtso.net>
- Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 10:33:59 +0100
- To: Bobby Mozumder <mozumder@futureclaw.com>, Brian Kardell <bkardell@gmail.com>
- Cc: WHATWG <whatwg@whatwg.org>, "public-html\@w3.org" <public-html@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <87y4mocb20.fsf@dieweltistgarnichtso.net>
Bobby Mozumder <mozumder@futureclaw.com> writes: >> On Mar 20, 2015, at 12:10 PM, Brian Kardell <bkardell@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> A few things worth noting: First, we've actually tried a bunch of >> this before, and you're not using it now so I think we can say that at >> some level it was unsuccessful. > > Thanks for the feedback here. I just had a quick look at some of the > past proposals (XForms, Microdata, & XSLT), and they all had clear > usability & design issues to me. XForms, Microdata and XSLT all do different things. Note that no widely used browser supports XForms in its default configuration; while Chrome, Firefox, Internet Explorer, Safari and Opera all support XSLT. Can you explain the “clear usability & design issues” you have seen in XSLT? If so, please do. I suspect that many developers hate to be “forced” by language structure to think about clean abstractions and rather write maintenance-intensive spaghetti code. A friend of mine started learning how to make web pages recently – she was annoyed by the amount of “just use jQuery” (instead of CSS) that came up when she wanted to solve simple layout problems. > For this, I focused on presenting the most obvious, usable solution, > while trying to be very simple & intuitive to a web developer. A > usability test would be to see if people understand what I’m > proposing. I certainly did not. I would like to see an implementation of your proposal and several demonstrations. Do you have something on hand? > […] > Already, though, for some reason this proposal went viral. Search > Twitter for HTML6 to see what I mean. There are lots of discussions > around it out there now, including blog posts and news articles. > (It’s already big in Japan.) Here’s an example blog post that > discusses this proposal: > http://blog.smartbear.com/news/html6-apis-as-natural-friends/ > > With hundreds or thousands of shares, retweets, upvotes, etc.. it > looks like a lot of people want a solution like this. I don’t know > how it happened but I believe this represents peoples wide > dissatisfaction with having to use Javascript frameworks. I agree in that buzz does not necessarily mean your proposal has merit. -- Nils Dagsson Moskopp // erlehmann <http://dieweltistgarnichtso.net>
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