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Re: 4.13.1 Bread crumb navigation - use of right angle brackets

From: Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2014 10:41:26 +0000
Message-ID: <CA+ri+Vk5ks1gP7cJACx50nNcLXtnk-UpKGoPnmOi-5+LCh5N6g@mail.gmail.com>
To: "Jens O. Meiert" <jens@meiert.com>
Cc: Bruno Racineux <bruno@hexanet.net>, HTMLWG WG <public-html@w3.org>
thanks Jens,  you have the right end of this particular stick.



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On 2 March 2014 10:30, Jens O. Meiert <jens@meiert.com> wrote:

> > It doesn't matter what W3C recommends if Google or Bing suggest different
> > patterns. Right now Google uses the right angle bracket in their doc.
> > While Bing suggest either right angle bracket or double right angle
> > bracket.
> >
> > Why don't you guys at W3C consult with search engine folks. Getting on
> the
> > same page would be very nice, instead of having 3 different syntax
> > recommendations.
> Only responding to this part of your email: Unless you're suggesting
> interest in this to the extent of issuing penalties for non-compliance
> on behalf of search engines (which you please provide evidence for)
> this is, frankly, nonsense.
> Furthermore, the delimiter topic itself seems long done, in the sense
> of that there's rough agreement that "greater than" characters are
> typographically inadequate in the context of breadcrumbs. In addition,
> and speaking as an ex-Googler, regarding code that any given company
> uses in the assumption that it would even reflect their own views and
> standards is maybe a little naive. (Anecdotally, I myself have fished
> stuff like <h7> and <h8> elements out of Google's code base, and that
> code had no significance for company nor industry whatsoever.)
> This issue is about writing accurate documentation and making a sound
> recommendation for breadcrumb markup (Steve, please correct me if I'm
> confusing things now :). Giving this thought on W3C's end makes sense
> as the relevant specs have been written or edited on the W3C side, and
> as developers may look at the W3C to give sensible recommendations.
> The world will not end if this documentation makes a recommendation
> that not everyone agrees to but pulling in search engines here doesn't
> help anyone. If at all we could ping Ian (Hickson) and former HTML
> editors on their take of markup intent and how they think this problem
> should be tackled.
> Seems I don't exactly manage to step away from this discussion. :)
> --
> Jens O. Meiert
> http://meiert.com/en/
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