Re: Do not remove the media attribute from the source element

Done: https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=24731

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Ian Devlin
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On 13 February 2014 23:04, Travis Leithead <travis.leithead@microsoft.com>wrote:

>  Would one of you folks like to file the bug to re-add it to HTML5.1?
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> *From:* Ian Devlin [mailto:ian@iandevlin.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 12, 2014 2:54 AM
> *To:* Silvia Pfeiffer
> *Cc:* public-html@w3.org
> *Subject:* Re: Do not remove the media attribute from the source element
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> >> Are you saying that all these browsers support @media on <video> and do
> the right thing?
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> The desktop browsers, yes, and those mobile devices that I have been able
> to test on (slightly less than the list I gave earlier) yes.
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> I will write to caniuse.com as mentioned.
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> That use case mentioned in the bug report alone is a very good reason to
> keep the media attribute.
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> On 12 February 2014 09:34, Silvia Pfeiffer <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com>
> wrote:
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>  On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 7:04 PM, Ian Devlin <ian@iandevlin.com> wrote:
> > For info., I ran some quick tests to see what browsers currently support
> the
> > media attribute as part of <source>:
> > Latest versions of: Firefox, Chrome, Opera, Safari (5.1 on Windows and 6,
> > 6.1 and 7 on Mac).
> > IE9, IE10, and IE11.
> > Default browsers on all iPad and iPhone variants.
> > Default browsers on Android: SIII, Tab 2, Note II, and Nexus.
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> Are you saying that all these browsers support @media on <video> and
> do the right thing?
> If so, then it should indeed remain in the spec according to
> cross-browser compatibility rules for features in the spec. After all:
> the spec is there to describe what features are available in browsers.
> At least it would need to be in HTML5.0. If all browsers decided to
> remove it, it would then be deprecated for HTML5.1.
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> > As a side note, I also noticed that the popular caniuse.com website
> makes no
> > mention of the 'media' attribute at all, which wouldn't have helped with
> > people knowing about its existence.
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> It would be worth talking to them about it.
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> Also, if you have more indication that this feature actually has a
> good use case and that people will make use of it, it thus it doesn't
> fail the "Real Problems" test [1], that would help make a better case.
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> [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/html-design-principles/#solve-real-problems
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> I saw https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=19619#c36 so
> that's encouraging. Are there any other examples?
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> Cheers,
> Silvia.
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