- From: Suzanne Taylor <suzanne.taylor@pearson.com>
- Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 16:03:13 -0400
- To: "Jukka K. Korpela" <jukka.k.korpela@kolumbus.fi>, public-html@w3.org
Jukka - It sounds like it is to avoid the case where, for example, you type aria-hidden="true" into the code. But, you expect your script to switch that to aria-hidden="false" at some point. If scripting isn't available, the hard-coded aria-hidden="true" will always be there, preventing access to the content with a screen reader. So, examples (though these don't necessarily represent the best way to code) Case a) role="banner" (no scripting involved) Case b) Any time there's really no content or functionality without scripting: For example, aria-hidden="true" on a button to "Add Special Effects," when the special effects are only available with scripting on. When scripting is on, the script changes aria-hidden="false" Case to avoid) Anytime things would be less accessible or less accurate if the ARIA is there and the scripting is not there. For example, aria-hidden="true" on second level nested lists, where JavaScript is used to turn that list into an expandable/collapsible menu, and JavaScript changes aria-hidden="false" as needed. Without scripting, this would be a nested list of links, which is useful for anyone. But, if the script magic is done half as hard coded attributes and half within the script itself, as described, the nested lists won't be available to screen readers users. -----Original Message----- From: Jukka K. Korpela [mailto:jukka.k.korpela@kolumbus.fi] Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 2:07 PM To: public-html@w3.org Subject: ARIA in HTML: clarify when ARIA attributes can be written in markup The document "Using WAI-ARIA in HTML" http://www.w3.org/TR/aria-in-html/ says in clause2.5 (Add ARIA inline or via script?) that ARIA attributes should be added via scripting, not as "inline" (as attributes in HTML tags), except when a) the attribute "does not rely on scripting to provide interaction behaviour" or b) "the content and interaction is only supported in a scripting enabled browsing context", in which cases "it is safe" to include them inline. This looks rather mysterious: what would constitute use that does not fall into either of these categories? If an ARIA attribute expresses a relationship that is independent of scripting, a) applues. If it expresses a relationship created by scripting, b) applies. Does the clause mean that some cases might be interpreted so that an ARIA attribute could be independent of scripting but actually isn't? Please provide some example(s) of cases a) and b) and especially other cases. -- Yucca, http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/
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