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Re: [RESEND] suggestion: modify <small> definition

From: Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 17:11:34 +0100
Message-ID: <CA+ri+VkLC2NPoW5g40dG-QGAtTHQiZekLnQAQqX3N6FVGgNyPA@mail.gmail.com>
To: HTMLWG WG <public-html@w3.org>
here is some sample pages that use <small>:

1641 non #*HTML5* (doctype) pages using <small> http://
files.paciellogroup.com/blogmisc/data/small/index.html
<http://t.co/YXxLzmKkw6>
697 #*HTML5* pages using <small> http://
files.paciellogroup.com/blogmisc/data/small/html5-small/index.html
<http://t.co/ageaVPoxOT>

from top 50,000 web site home page data available at http://webdevdata.org

I have added a CSS style to visually highlight instances of small (yellow
background and red border)

note: the sample includes porn sites (as there are quite a few in top
50,000 top sites)

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Regards

SteveF
HTML 5.1 <http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/>


On 21 May 2013 10:43, Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com> wrote:

> resending as i realized some bits in original didn't make sense :-(
>
> Hi all, there has been discussion[1] on list and elsewhere[2] about the
> <small> element about what it means and what it does (and doesn't do).
>
> Alohci suggested[3] the following:
>
> "The small element represents lowered prominence, but equal importance, for
> its contents."
>
>
> in place of [4]
>
> "The small element represents side comments such as small print."
>
> I think Aohci's suggestion has some merit as <small> does what his revised definition states (or should do), (unlike the current definition). Authors use it
> i.e. to visually lower the prominence of text content, but often the text is of
> no less importance (and may indeed be of greater importance in the case of
> disclaimers, caveats, legal restrictions, or copyrights.
>
> Alohci goes on to suggest:
>
> "It is suitable for content that is side comments such as small print, or
> for parts of a heading that may be omitted from an outline."
>
> but think it would be better to put this aside for the moment.
>
> [1]
> april -
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2013Apr/thread.html#msg22
> may -http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2013May/subject.html#msg112
>
> [2]https://twitter.com/stevefaulkner/status/336523024054493185https://twitter.com/stevefaulkner/status/336525854677020672https://twitter.com/stevefaulkner/status/336557226019930113
>
> [3] http://html5doctor.com/howto-subheadings/#comment-34256
> [4]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/text-level-semantics.html#the-small-element
> --
>
> Regards
>
> SteveF
>
> --
>
> Regards
>
> SteveF
> HTML 5.1 <http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/>
>
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