- From: Patrick H. Lauke <redux@splintered.co.uk>
- Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 13:57:21 +0100
- To: HTMLWG WG <public-html@w3.org>
On 21/05/2013 13:34, Steve Faulkner wrote: > I think the definition is trying to dissociate the two. Author intent = > make appear less important by making smaller (less prominent). The > definition attempts to rectify this by saying that despite it being > smaller it is of no less (potential) importance to the user. If the author's intent IS in fact to make it less important, then HTML should honour the author's intent. As I said before, author intent and audience intent may often differ, and HTML should heed the former. Otherwise, if the spec explicitly said that <small> is of no less importance / doesn't de-emphasise the text, why would authors actually use it? Just to achieve smaller default rendering? Why not just use a span with font-size: 0.7em or something? In short, I believe that the reason why authors (be it advertisers or similar) use <small> is the same reason they use small print in printed material, tv advertising, etc: to de-emphasise something, either because it's worded in a very non-sexy way (legalese that they are obliged to include, in a particular form, but that does not fit in with the style they're trying to convey), is too wordy (I'm reminded of the audio equivalent in radio advertising where they read out the small print very fast), or because they in fact want to deceive the unwary ("our payday loans have approx 500% APR equivalent interest"). As such, the language definition should reflect this intended use of de-emphasising. Otherwise, it seems unbalanced that visual users will have it visually de-emphasised while, say, screenreader users may not. Will readers/users want to actually place importance on content marked as <small> ? Certainly, but the same way that visual users will have to pay attention to something that's visually smaller than the rest ("read the small print"), the same way non-visual users will have to explicitly go over something that's been nominally marked as "oh that? that's really nothing too important, move along". Or, put another way: the ethics of using small print / <small> to actually mark up important stuff is a completely separate issue ... one which simply changing the definition in the spec won't solve, IMHO. P -- Patrick H. Lauke ______________________________________________________________ re·dux (adj.): brought back; returned. used postpositively [latin : re-, re- + dux, leader; see duke.] www.splintered.co.uk | www.photographia.co.uk http://redux.deviantart.com | http://flickr.com/photos/redux/ ______________________________________________________________ twitter: @patrick_h_lauke | skype: patrick_h_lauke ______________________________________________________________
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