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Re: 4.13.1 Bread crumb navigation - use of right angle brackets

From: Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2013 09:08:55 +0000
Message-ID: <CA+ri+V=q8OFU-DG-F48u5w6gahAoaDi4PuQxZOGtgH3thAGvhA@mail.gmail.com>
To: "Leif H. Silli" <xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no>
Cc: "Jens O. Meiert" <jens@meiert.com>, "Jukka K. Korpela" <jukka.k.korpela@kolumbus.fi>, W3C Public HTML <public-html@w3.org>
Hi Leif,

webaim screen reader survey includes a question (q 17) about breadcrumbs
http://webaim.org/projects/screenreadersurvey5/

this will hopefully provide some useful data on the various mark patterns.

--

Regards

SteveF
HTML 5.1 <http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/>


On 12 November 2013 12:55, Leif H. Silli
<xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no>wrote:

> In my view, Steve has shown his thinking. The breadcrumb does not
> represent a hierarchy, it represents a path across a hierarchy. Hence, it
> is juat fine that a list does not represent a hierarchy.
>
> My addition: A path is an unordered list in the sense that another path to
> the same end point might also be possible, depending on  how the web site
> is configured.
>
> Leif Halvard Silli
>
> "Jens O. Meiert" 12.11.2013, 06:08
> Til: "Jukka K. Korpela"; Steve Faulkner
> Kopi: W3C Public HTML
> Emne: Re: 4.13.1 Bread crumb navigation - use of right angle brackets
>
>
> > > feedback from (AT) users appears to indicate that when there are links
> of
> > > lists its useful to have them marked up as a list.
> >
> > I wonder what the specific issue is there. Which software is this about?
> > What is the difference, from the user perspective, between
> <nav><ul><li><a
> > href=...>...</a>...</ul></nav> and a <nav> containing just <a> elements
> with
> > some separators, like “→”, between them? How much does this matter, and
> > why?
> >
> > Any effect should be weighed against the obvious effect that in any
> non-CSS
> > rendering situation, the breadcrumb becomes a bulleted list. A bulleted
> list
> > indicates, in any normal usage, a simple list of items – it does not
> > indicate a hierarchy, rather lack thereof.
>
> +1.
>
> Steve, do you mind sharing specifics? What AT users, and how many?
> What does “appear” mean? And what were they asked? (If asked how to
> mark up a list, I’d also say using a list. But here we ask how to
> markup breadcrumbs.)
>
> --
> Jens O. Meiert
> http://meiert.com/en/
>
> ✍ New book! http://meiert.com/everyday-adventurer
>
>
>
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