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Re: Week 14/15: Staged WHATWG patches for HTML5.1

From: Silvia Pfeiffer <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2013 17:15:44 +1000
Message-ID: <CAHp8n2kutodyVCxyCNT1+FKAp9XkqyTGa6knbDEm9Y1Vy+j8+g@mail.gmail.com>
To: Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
Cc: public-html <public-html@w3.org>
Oops, I meant to write "This *is* repeating information that is defined in
the <main> element."

So, what this patch does is the following: it adds to the elements <aside>,
<footer>, <header>, and <nav> a note that these elements can't have a
<main> element as their descendants. That's just repeating something that
we already have defined in the <main> element, where we say:

Contexts in which this element can be
used<http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/single-page.html#element-dfn-contexts>
: Where flow content<http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/single-page.html#flow-content-1>
 is expected, but with no
article<http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/single-page.html#the-article-element>
, aside<http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/single-page.html#the-aside-element>
, footer<http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/single-page.html#the-footer-element>
, header<http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/single-page.html#the-header-element>
 or nav<http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/single-page.html#the-nav-element>
 element ancestors.


The only element for which we are not repeating this information is the
<article> element. I guess that's because Ian believes there is a
possibility to put <main> inside <article> elements. We could extend the
patch to also be applied to <article> to say:

Contexts in which this element can be
used<http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/single-page.html#element-dfn-contexts>
: Where flow content<http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/single-page.html#flow-content-1>
 is expected, but with no main element descendants .

This would make it clear in both directions (ancestors and descendants).

That's all.

Silvia.

On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 4:44 PM, Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>wrote:

> ? is this defined somewhere else other than the element defintion? if
> thats the case then its fine
>
> --
>
> Regards
>
> SteveF
> HTML 5.1 <http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/>
>
>
> On 18 April 2013 07:41, Silvia Pfeiffer <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 4:16 PM, Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> hi silvia,
>>>
>>>
>>> * Restrict <main> from having <aside>, <footer>, <header>, or <nav>
>>> ancestors (7817)
>>>
>>> https://github.com/w3c/html/commit/92a5ab6d36b3db8b655f88d080779bfd0f8b56a3
>>>
>>> doesn't look like this was applied and ask that it not be applied as the
>>> contexts in which main can be used are already defined in html 5.1 and the
>>> rules are implemented the validator,
>>>
>>
>>
>> It's in nightly, so just staged for publication. This is why I do these
>> cherry-picks - I can always revert them. However, I have a question.
>> This repeating information that is defined in the <main> element. Why is
>> that so bad to repeat it? In my view, it makes it easier for an author to
>> find this information.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Silvia.
>>
>
>
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