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What is the action plan for Issue 204? (was Re: HTML-A11Y Task Force Consensus on Issue-204 (Updated))

From: Laura Carlson <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 14:08:57 -0500
Message-ID: <CAOavpvdGRBPa+W+5OUPv_u_JzbE=Vx6cyeBDT4ngyVDCr4-MuA@mail.gmail.com>
To: Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net>, Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net>, Jonas Sicking <jonas@sicking.cc>, "Edward O'Connor" <eoconnor@apple.com>
Cc: Cynthia Shelly <cyns@microsoft.com>, Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com>, "public-html@w3.org" <public-html@w3.org>, HTML Accessibility Task Force <public-html-a11y@w3.org>, "W3C WAI Protocols & Formats" <w3c-wai-pf@w3.org>, Judy Brewer <jbrewer@w3.org>, Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis <bhawkeslewis@googlemail.com>
Hi Sam, Janina, Jonas, Ted, and all,

It is unclear what the next step is for HTML WG ISSUE-204 and who is
responsible. The two meetings held today and recent correspondence
seem to indicate miscommunication.

>From today's Accessibility Task Force Meeting:
> MS: Where does 204 stand?
> JB: perhaps Janina can provide an overview
> JS: believe we are waiting on Ted/Jonas proposal side
> status is that we are close - trying to bring the 2 together, but the suggestion was for RFC 2119 MUST or SHOULD language
> PF filed a strong objection on that kind of language
> hope to re-start that convesation
> appears that the details however are not tht far apart
> still trying to avoid a survey

>From today's HTML Working Group Meeting
> <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/204
> rubys: got indication TF will object to any/all SHALLS
... ready for survey, but not sure
... would like indication that a consensus may be obtained first
... haven't heard back from janina yet
... wants to hear something back soon

Janina said she believes "we are waiting on Ted/Jonas proposal side".
Sam seems to be waiting for something from Janina "soon". What is
wrong here? Who is waiting on who?

Janina, what are you waiting for from Ted/Jonas? A statement that they
can live with the "May" language in Cynthia's v3 proposal [1]?
Ted/Jonas can you live with that? Benjamin already said that he
couldn't but hasn't produced a proposal.

Sam, what are you waiting for from Janina? Was your June 6 email [2]
to Jonas really meant to go to Janina?  Janina indicated that the WAI
Protocols and Formats Working Group and NOT the HTML accessibility
task force (they are two different groups[3]) would object to "should"
and "must" statements [4].

Can the HTML Chairs please put together a 204 action plan with next
steps, due dates, and responsible parties so we can get this issue

Issue 204 has delayed the resolution of Issue 30 longdesc since
February. If 204 cannot be resolved imminently can we please resolve
Issue 30 before Issue 204? Others outside of the HTML working group
have been waiting on that for far too long.

Best Regards,

[1] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/Correct_Hidden_Attribute_Section_v3
[2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jun/0021.html
[3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012May/0161.html
[4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012May/0156.html
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