- From: Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
- Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 13:35:17 +0100
- To: Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com>, Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>, Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net>
- Cc: public-html@w3.org, "Edward O'Connor" <eoconnor@apple.com>
- Message-ID: <CA+ri+V=PfrGv7Z+Ko77n7B1AzikHXuSYf=NhsMRbNNtTTn-GTg@mail.gmail.com>
Hi chairs, As we don't appear to be able to reach consensus on the 'unbacked regions' aspect of ted's proposal. Wondering if it makes sense for me to start work on a CP? regards SteveF On 6 July 2012 08:16, Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Ted, > > thank you for persevering. > > you wrote: > > "Each hit region has an associated control, which is either an element or > an unbacked region description. You pass in the control when you call > addHitRegion()." > > reading > http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/the-canvas-element.html#hit-regions > > to clarify, regions only have a control when they have an associated > element. so unbacked regions don't have a control right? > > As unbacked regions cannt be focusable and cannot have additional author > defined properties it does not make any sense for ARIA roles that are for > interactive objects. > > If the list of roles allowed on unbacked regions is constrained to those > that make sense, then I could live with the rest of the concept. > > So I suggest either the list of roles that can be used or the list of > roles that cannot be used be defined so no one is under any illusion that > unbacked regions can make representations of controls, for example a > button, accessible. > > Below is a suggested list of allowed ARIA roles: > > subset of document structure roles > > - article <http://roles#article> > - group <http://roles#group> > - note <http://roles#note> > - region <http://roles#region> > - separator <http://roles#separator> > > landmark roles > <http://roles#application> > > - application <http://roles#application> > - banner <http://roles#banner> > - complementary <http://roles#complementary> > - contentinfo <http://roles#contentinfo> > - form <http://roles#form> > - main <http://roles#main> > - navigation <http://roles#navigation> > - search <http://roles#search> > > > Is this something you are amenable to adding to your CP? > > > reegards > Stevef > > > > On 6 July 2012 00:02, Edward O'Connor <eoconnor@apple.com> wrote: > >> Hi Steve, >> >> You wrote: >> >> > what is the source of the note? Is it in your CP? >> >> It's from r7029, which is one of the revisions my CP aims to restore to >> the W3C version of the spec. >> >> > How is the region associated with the control since the region can >> > have no properties added which define a relationship between them? >> >> Each hit region has an associated control, which is either an element or >> an unbacked region description. You pass in the control when you call >> addHitRegion(). Is this unclear in the spec text? >> >> > Soon as an author wants to go beyond simple grouping objects, they can >> > no longer use the lightweight objects anyway as no relationship >> > properties can be added to the lightweight objects. >> >> We should make the easy things easy and the hard things possible. >> Allowing hit regions to be associated with either unbacked region >> descriptions or elements allows for this: if you have a complex thing >> which requires WAI-ARIA states and properties to describe, use an >> element. If not, use an unbacked region description. >> >> >> HTH, >> Ted >> >> > > > -- > with regards > > Steve Faulkner > Technical Director - TPG > > www.paciellogroup.com | www.HTML5accessibility.com | > www.twitter.com/stevefaulkner > HTML5: Techniques for providing useful text alternatives - > dev.w3.org/html5/alt-techniques/ > Web Accessibility Toolbar - www.paciellogroup.com/resources/wat-ie-about.html > > > -- with regards Steve Faulkner Technical Director - TPG www.paciellogroup.com | www.HTML5accessibility.com | www.twitter.com/stevefaulkner HTML5: Techniques for providing useful text alternatives - dev.w3.org/html5/alt-techniques/ Web Accessibility Toolbar - www.paciellogroup.com/resources/wat-ie-about.html
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