- From: Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis <bhawkeslewis@googlemail.com>
- Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 10:38:00 +0100
- To: John Foliot <john@foliot.ca>
- Cc: David Singer <singer@apple.com>, Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com>, Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net>, public-html@w3.org, HTML Accessibility Task Force <public-html-a11y@w3.org>
On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 10:31 AM, Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis <bhawkeslewis@googlemail.com> wrote: > On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 12:38 AM, John Foliot <john@foliot.ca> wrote: >> Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis wrote: >>> >>> On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 11:18 PM, John Foliot <john@foliot.ca> wrote: >>> > How do *you* think a Deaf person might access such descriptions that >>> are @hidden but "conforming"? >>> >>> If they wanted to access them, I'd expect them to use a user agent >>> with a mechanism for exposing them. >>> >>> The challenge of universal access to hidden descriptions is not >>> specific to descriptions that have structure or interactivity. Yet >>> ARIA blesses hidden descriptions and accordingly so do both CPs. >> >> See, right there, this is where I believe you are misunderstanding ARIA. >> >> ARIA "blesses" nothing > > What I mean by "blesses" is such usage is not merely conforming by > omission but explicitly suggested. > > Long descriptions for images: > > http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria-practices/#kbd_layout_remaining_description > > Structured and interactive content: > > "aria-describedby may reference structured or interactive information > where users would want to be able to navigate to different sections of > content. User agents MAY provide a way for the user to navigate to > structured information referenced by aria-describedby and assistive > technology SHOULD provide such a method." > > http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria-implementation/#mapping_additional_relations_reverse_relations Oh - and how could I forget - from the most canonical definition of the property there is: " a description is intended to provide more verbose information … Include ID references to multiple elements if necessary, or enclose a set of elements (e.g., paragraphs) with the element referenced by the ID." http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria/states_and_properties#aria-describedby Not only mere multiple _sentences_ but multiple _paragraphs_! -- Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis
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