- From: John Foliot <john@foliot.ca>
- Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 15:18:36 -0700
- To: "'Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis'" <bhawkeslewis@googlemail.com>
- Cc: "'David Singer'" <singer@apple.com>, "'Maciej Stachowiak'" <mjs@apple.com>, "'Sam Ruby'" <rubys@intertwingly.net>, <public-html@w3.org>, "'HTML Accessibility Task Force'" <public-html-a11y@w3.org>
Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis wrote: > > Plenty of lengthy image descriptions and UI instructions don't need > structure or controls. > > How do you think a Deaf person might access such descriptions that are > @hidden but "conforming" in that they do not include "complex" > content? I suppose they would just read them, but of course they would be unable to read anything that is @hidden because, well, it is hidden. Complex or less complex, the current CP is suggesting that the "longer descriptions" be place inside of a construct that would be @hidden, yet still accessible to aria-describedby. With no visual indicator or switch for the sighted user to know that there is a longer textual description (complex or simple), they would probably never even have the opportunity to read it. The only reason why I mention deafness is that at least one implementer is suggesting that the rich or simple longer description would be read aloud using VoiceOver - which is of no use to the user who is deaf. There are 2 possible patterns that might emerge here. The first is "inline" like this: <img src="" aria-describedby="foo1" alt="alt text"> <div id="foo1" hidden> <p>Plenty of content here, which may or may not include richer content such as:</p> <ul> <li><a href="baz.html">Links</a></li> <li>Lists <ol> <li>Unordered</li> <li>Ordered</li> <li>Definition</li> </ol></li> <li>Tables</li> </ul> </div> The other being: <img src="" aria-describedby="foo2" alt="alt text"> <a href="longer_description.html" hidden>Longer textual description</a> I'll pose the question back to you (and the larger list as well) - How do *you* think a Deaf person might access such descriptions that are @hidden but "conforming"? JF
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