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https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=18574 Summary: @hidden should have a weak mapping to aria-hidden=true Product: HTML WG Version: unspecified Platform: PC URL: http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/wai-aria.html#table-aria- strong OS/Version: All Status: NEW Keywords: a11y Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: HTML5 spec AssignedTo: dave.null@w3.org ReportedBy: xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no QAContact: public-html-bugzilla@w3.org CC: mike@w3.org, public-html-wg-issue-tracking@w3.org, public-html@w3.org Disambiguate @hidden from @aria-hidden=true. @hidden is currently listed in HTML5's strong ARIA mappings table. It should rather be in the ha weak mapping table.[0] The strong mapping table currently says about the hidden attribute that: [1] 1. "The Strong native semantics and default implied ARIA semantics" 2. for an "Element with a hidden attribute" 3. is "The aria-hidden state set to "true". Similarly, the table says about the empty alt attribute: 1. "The Strong native semantics and default implied ARIA semantics" 2. for an "img element whose alt attribute's value is empty" 2. is "presentation role" Now: We know that the empty alt attribute causes screenreaders to interpret the image as presentational in a very literal sense. [2] Hence, one could expect that @hidden as well would be mapped to its correspoding aria attribute quite literally. However, as of yet, no such correspondence is documented - @hidden does seemingly not map whether to A11Y APIs or to WAI-ARIA. [3] And if @hidden had been a direct synonym for @aria-hidden=true in the same way that the empty alt="" is a synonym for role=presentation, then one would have expected the following paragraph to be _hidden_ from AT: <p hidden style="display:block">Lorem ipsum However, no ATs hide the above paragraph from users. Because it turns out that there are currently no difference, to ATs, between @style="display:none" and @hidden. In addition, the issue of ISSUE 204, is about allowing ATs to "jump around" inside a section that that has been hidden with the @hidden attribute. So what if that section - or a nested section inside that section - has aria-hidden=true? Would AT then see it? Example: <p hidden style="display:block" aria-hidden="true" id=D >Lorem ipsum Currently, at least, thy would not see the above. And for that reason, one should assume that if @aria-describedby="D" pointed to the above example, then ATs would not perceive it as a "rich" description - but would rather read it as a "flattened" description. (This _could_ be a feature in itself, e.g. if the author wants to make sure that the section is flattened to all AT suers.) The weak ARIA mapping table is for semantivs that can be overridden: "Some HTML elements have native semantics that can be overridden". And I think that current status - and the outcome of ISSUE-204, indicates that the weeak table is more correct. [0] http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/wai-aria.html#table-aria-weak [1] http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/wai-aria.html#table-aria-strong [2] http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/html-api-map/raw-file/default/Overview.html#el-59 [3] http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/html-api-map/raw-file/default/Overview.html#att-22 -- Configure bugmail: https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
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